The implementations based on draft-ietf-bess-service-chaining-04 are absolutely 
in production use.
Can it be explained what is meant by: “It has a multiplicity of issues, 
primarily wrt scalability and ease of configuration”?

Maria

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Hi John,

Daniel,

It has a multiplicity of issues, primarily wrt scalability and ease of 
configuration.


​Am I reading your comment correctly that draft-ietf-bess-service-chaining-04 
is unscalable and hard to configure and draft ​draft-farrel-mpls-sfc is 
superior ?

Please observe that your own Juniper products are based already for a long time 
on the former and as you admited no one has any product based on the latter.

Doesn't this makes it a bit of an odd argument ? Also please do notice that  
draft-ietf-bess-service-chaining-04 vastly reuses 20 years of experience of 
L3VPNs service so your claim may be IMHO a little weak :)

Cheers,
R.


 Yours Irrespectively,
John

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Hi John,



Don't we already have 
draft-fm-bess-service-chaining-01<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dfm-2Dbess-2Dservice-2Dchaining-2D01&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=CRB2tJiQePk0cT-h5LGhEWH-s_xXXup3HzvBSMRj5VE&m=F3v0beOmsieoZ48B9JYfPjhGusHbW5F5SF9W20KcURU&s=UHNxeZF9m0BVCmAjG-ODELBOjV1v2yu25uDOeZSRw6g&e=>
 to perform service chains with existing MPLS implementations ?



Thanks,​


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