Linda,

Looking back at IETF 104, we had a large slot dedicated to service chaining. 
Even with such a special slot, I don’t feel that the agenda filtering effort 
was unreasonable. The one week meeting time is limited. The larger each WG 
slot, the more collisions between WGs. Therefore some amount of filtering seem 
reasonable to me.

For IETF 105, indeed the number of agenda requests was high. I don’t feel that 
this was predictable from looking at the mailing list activity. Even looking 
back with all the agenda requests I’m not sure to identify the reason. Possibly 
the submission of SRv6 SRH to IESG has triggered more work on SRv6.

That been said, the reduction of the maximum slot size from 2.5 hours to 2 hour 
is also playing a role and at least to compensate we’ll considerer asking for 2 
slots.

Regards,
--Bruno


From: Linda Dunbar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 10:31 PM
To: DECRAENE Bruno TGI/OLN; SPRING WG List
Subject: RE: [spring] Agenda for IETF 105 Published

Bruno,

Why SPRING not request more time for IETF105?
SPRING had more time request than the WG session in IETF104. It happens again 
for IETF105.
Many WGs have multiple sessions, e.g. IDR has 3 sessions in IETF105; RTGwg has 
2 sessions in IETF105, etc.

Linda Dunbar


From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Shakir
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 5:38 PM
To: SPRING WG List
Subject: [spring] Agenda for IETF 105 Published

Hi SPRING WG,

Bruno and I have published the agenda for IETF 105 -- please see 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-105-spring/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fagenda-105-spring%2F&data=02%7C01%7Clinda.dunbar%40futurewei.com%7C6455eb609f084be7e91908d7095d1bfc%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C636988167826701223&sdata=eHT5FQDQxIngMYuXzrLjXSr0QRvA47Vt86h4szbe9W0%3D&reserved=0>
 for details.

Once again, we were vastly oversubscribed for time in this meeting - with 
almost 5 hours of requests for a 2 hour meeting. Most of these requests are for 
documents that are not discussed on the mailing list, and many of them are for 
new work. This makes the job of making sure that we have productive time 
face-to-face as a working group very difficult for the chairs. This is 
something that Bruno and I are discussing, and will aim to cover during our 
short slot at the beginning of the agenda.

To make sure that our meeting is as productive as possible:
•        if you're a WG participant: please read the drafts before the meeting,
•        if you're presenting: please avoid giving detailed overviews of the 
content of your document, and focus on outstanding open technical issues, or 
questions that you have for the SPRING working group.
If you have been allocated time, please send your slides by Monday July 22nd, 
at 10:00 EST. Slides that are received after this time may not be included in 
the meeting materials.

If you were not allocated time, please use this as a gentle shove to discuss 
your draft on the mailing list.

We look forward to meeting in Montréal.

Safe travels,
Bruno and Rob.



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