Hi,

We are interested in the SRv6 solution as standardized by the working group. 
Thanks!
We see SRv6 solution may align with some of our production requirements for 
TE(and other use-cases) while potentially being inline within our needs for 
simplicity, performance, MTU overhead optimizations etc

Gaurav


> On Sep 1, 2019, at 1:19 AM, Sébastien Parisot <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We deployed SRv6 as part of our new mobile network in Italy (Iliad Italy). 
> SRv6 with SRH is carrying commercial traffic of millions of subscribers for 
> several months, with line-rate performance and on several platforms and 
> operating systems.
> We also started to extend our deployment to our national network in France 
> (Free & Free Mobile), we already have significant inter-AS SRv6 traffic.
> 
> You can also read draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status-01 section 
> 2.3.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sébastien
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Satoru Matsushima" <[email protected]>
>> À: "SPRING WG List" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Zafar Ali, zali" <[email protected]>, "Rob Shakir" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Envoyé: Samedi 31 Août 2019 15:41:43
>> Objet: Re: [spring] Beyond SRv6.
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> As part of the 5G rollout, Softbank have deployed a nationwide SRv6 network
>> carrying commercial traffic with the linerate performance using Merchant
>> Silicon.
>> 
>> https://www.softbank.jp/corp/news/press/sbkk/2019/20190424_03/
>> 
>> # You can read it in your language through some translation service, e.g, 
>> google
>> translation.
>> 
>> draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status captured that use case.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> --satoru
>> 
>> 
>>> 2019/08/31 6:05、Zafar Ali (zali) <[email protected]>のメール:
>>> 
>>> Dear Chairs and the WG:
>>> 
>>> The SRv6 network programming solution and its SRH encapsulation is 
>>> implemented
>>> on 12 hardware platforms including Merchant Silicon.
>>> Multiple providers have deployed the SRv6 network programming solution and 
>>> its
>>> SRH encapsulation with line-rate performance carrying a significant amount 
>>> of
>>> commercial traffic.
>>> Several independent interoperability reports documenting successful
>>> interoperability of implementation from multiple vendors exist.
>>> Implementation, deployment, and interoperability status is publicly 
>>> documented
>>> inhttps://www.ietf.org/id/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status-01.txt.
>>> 
>>> Most use-cases are expected to use very few SRv6 segments.
>>> 
>>> In some specific use-cases, one may desire to optimize the MTU usage 
>>> further.
>>> The SRv6 network programming solution and its SRH encapsulation also 
>>> support for
>>> this Optimization, through the uSID network instruction.
>>> 
>>> I do not see the need for any new encapsulation work.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Regards … Zafar
>>> 
>>> From: spring <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Shakir
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:04 PM
>>> To: SPRING WG List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [spring] Beyond SRv6.
>>> 
>>> Hi SPRING WG,
>>> 
>>> Over the last 5+ years, the IETF has developed Source Packet Routing in
>>> NetworkinG (SPRING) aka Segment Routing for both the MPLS (SR-MPLS) and IPv6
>>> (SRv6) data planes. SR-MPLS may also be transported over IP in UDP or GRE.
>>> 
>>> These encapsulations are past WG last call (in IESG or RFC Editor).
>>> 
>>> During the SPRING WG meeting at IETF 105, two presentations were related to 
>>> the
>>> reduction of the size of the SID for IPv6 dataplane:
>>>    •
>>>    • SRv6+ / CRH --
>>>    • https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bonica-spring-srv6-plus-04
>>>    •
>>>    •
>>>    • uSID --
>>>    •
>>>    
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-net-pgm-extension-srv6-usid-01
>>>    •
>>> 
>>> During the IETF week, two additional drafts have been proposed:
>>>    •
>>>    • https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-li-spring-compressed-srv6-np-00
>>>    •
>>>    •
>>>    • https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-6man-unified-id-sr-03
>>>    •
>>> 
>>> As we expressed during the meeting, it is important for the WG to understand
>>> what the aims of additional encapsulations are. Thus, we think it is 
>>> important
>>> that the WG should first get to a common understanding on the requirements 
>>> for
>>> a new IPv6 data plane with a smaller SID - both from the perspective of
>>> operators that are looking to deploy these technologies, and from that of 
>>> the
>>> software/hardware implementation.
>>> 
>>> Therefore, we would like to solicit network operators interested in SR over 
>>> the
>>> IPv6 data plane to briefly introduce their:
>>>    •
>>>    • use case (e.g. Fast Reroute, explicit routing/TE)
>>>    •
>>>    •
>>>    • forwarding performance and scaling requirements
>>>    •
>>>        •
>>>        • e.g., (number of nodes, network diameter,
>>>        • number of SID required in max and average). For the latter, if 
>>> possible using
>>>        both SRv6 128-bit SIDs and shorter (e.g. 32-bit) SIDs as the number 
>>> would
>>>        typically be different (*).
>>>        •
>>>    •
>>>    • if the existing SRv6 approach is not deployable
>>>    • in their circumstances, details of the requirement of a different 
>>> solution is
>>>    required and whether this solution is needed for the short term only or 
>>> for the
>>>    long term.
>>>    •
>>> 
>>> As well as deployment limitations, we would like the SPRING community to 
>>> briefly
>>> describe the platform limitations that they are seeing which limit the
>>> deployment of SRv6  In particular limitations related to the number of SIDs
>>> which can be pushed and forwarded and how much the use of shorter SIDs would
>>> improve the deployments .
>>> 
>>> For both of these sets of feedback if possible, please post this to the 
>>> SPRING
>>> WG. If the information cannot be shared publicly, please send it directly to
>>> the chairs & AD (Martin).
>>> 
>>> This call for information will run for four weeks, up to 2019/09/03. As a
>>> reminder, you can reach the SPRING chairs [email protected] and ADs 
>>> via
>>> [email protected].
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> -- Rob & Bruno
>>> 
>>> (*) As expressed on the mailing list, a 128 bit SID can encode two 
>>> instructions
>>> a node SID and an adjacency SID hence less SID may be required.
>>> 
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