Hi Ole,

On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 03:05:14PM +0200, Ole Troan wrote:
> Fernando,
> 
> >> The IETF is not writing de jure standards.
> >> In fact reality is quite different, and the Internet evolves the way it 
> >> does somewhat independently of what documents the IETF produces.

one may then wonder: why does the IETF produce documents "for the Internet"? 
[A: maybe in some cases they don't, but for the interests of vendors being 
involved]

I've been in the IPv6 world for a while now, mostly with some distance to 
what's happening in the IETF. From that experience I can confirm that the 
[IPv6] Internet evolves "independently of what documents the IETF [here: 6man] 
produces". Let me still state that from such an outsider's perspective the 
whole debate around EH insertion for segment routing looks so blatantly 
obviously vendor-driven that 6man has completely lost its credibility in many 
circles being involved in deploying IPv6 in "the Internet". I know you folks 
don't rly care but mentioning 6man usually produces rolling eyes and quirky 
smiles. 
I understand that this e-mail does not argue on the grounds of technical merit, 
and it actually wastes more bandwidth, neutrons and life time of smart people 
reading this, in a debate which has already wasted *a lot* of those. May I 
hence ask for a response in a direct manner if you ever feel inclined to write 
one. thanks. 

Everybody have a great day

Enno

--
Enno Rey


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