[changing the thread subject from ‘Re: [spring] WG status - pending calls” to 
‘draft-anand-spring-poi-sr’]
Jeff,

      >From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura

Ø  Please also add draft-anand-spring-poi-sr-08.

On that draft, I’ve spent quite some time with the authors in order to have 
that draft clarified, both face to face and through emails. This was partly 
before you joined the set of authors.
At that time, I didn’t believe the draft was ready for adoption, explained the 
reasons, sent comments, tried to understand the motivation & solution and 
improve the draft.

The draft has been significantly improved, thank you Anand. But IINM the ball 
is still on authors side. Latest email from one author is the following


Ø  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 6:28 PM
[…]

Ø  Hi Bruno,


Ø  Apologies for our delayed response. We just uploaded a new draft that tries 
to address your comments. I’ll respond to your comments soon.


Ø  Thanks,


So I’m waiting for the answers to my comments/emails. My review was from 
Tuesday, October 16, 2018 so after more than a year, everybody has lost context.

I’d also encourage comments, discussion and review from the SPRING WG.

Restating a meta comment, I think the draft could be clearer if you didn’t have 
to define the POG (Packet optical gateway) terminology which I don’t find 
crystal clear in the SPRING context.

   “The concept of POG introduced here allows for multiple instantiations
   of the concept. In one case, the packet device is distinct from the
   transport/optical device, and the POG is a logical entity that spans
   these two devices. In this case, the POG functionality is achieved
   with the help of external coordination between the packet and optical
   devices. In another case, the packet and optical components are
   integrated into one physical device, and the co-ordination required
   for functioning of the POG is performed by this integrated device.
   It must be noted that in either case, it is the packet/optical data
   plane that is either disaggregated or integrated. Control of the
   devices can be logically centralized or distributed in either
   scenario.  The focus of this document is to define the logical
   functions of a POG without going into the exact instantiations of the
   concept. »
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-anand-spring-poi-sr-08#section-1

It’s not certain that the SPRING WG is the best home

-           “to define the logical functions of a POG without going into the 
exact instantiations of the concept.”

-           restating my previous comment “ it would be good to present the 
document both in PCE and TEAS, in order to collect their feedback.” Which IINM 
is also pending an answer  (beyond “Please note Madhukar's new email address.”)

-          SPRING related content seems in section 5 [1]. But it’s not 
immediately apparent what the document is specifying in addition to the SR 
policy [2]
[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-anand-spring-poi-sr-08#section-5
[2] 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-06#section-2

On the other hand, the document is defining PCE and BGP-LS protocol extension.
So one option would be to discuss this document in the PCE WG and for SPRING 
related aspects build upon existing SPRING constructs, in particular SID, 
Binding SID and SR Policy.
Another option would be to discuss this document in the IDR WG as it seems 
mostly defining BGP-LS extensions.

So again, I would encourage you to present to the PCE WG and to the IDR WG for 
BGP-LS related extensions.

Thank you,
--Bruno

From: spring [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 11:27 PM
To: SPRING WG List
Subject: Re: [spring] WG status - pending calls

Shuping,

Please also add draft-anand-spring-poi-sr-08.


Thanks and happy holidays!

Regards,
Jeff


On Dec 21, 2019, at 12:37, Ron Bonica <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Shuping,

Please add draft-bonica-spring-sr-mapped-six as a candidate for adoption.

                                                                       Ron




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From: spring <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 11:58 AM
To: 'SPRING WG List' <[email protected]>
Subject: [spring] WG status - pending calls

Hi SPRING,

A number of authors have asked for their document to be adopted or last called.
Chairs have some backlog on this. The WG has also been pretty busy over the 
last 6 months with a set of subjects triggering many emails and this is not 
always the best time to ask for review of additional documents (versus short 
‘+1’).
Chairs/WG will work on this calls in 2020. In the meantime, for a better 
transparency, Shuping has been kind enough to track this on the wiki 
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/spring<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/trac.ietf.org/trac/spring__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!TG5-O8kd2fVPxVkN2IRvaGLVHkQ6cSPlDhE0xNBRC23Go4mlw3dAbBCJR3JqSYly$>
 Thank you Shuping.
If your document is missing from the list of pending calls for adoption/last 
call, please send an email to the chairs or to the list, as you wish.
Otherwise, your request is been tracked.

Content of this page is subject to change. In particular, the goal is not to 
duplicate the information already tracked in the ietf datatracker. E.g. 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=&sort=&activedrafts=on&by=group&group=spring<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search?name=&sort=&activedrafts=on&by=group&group=spring__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!TG5-O8kd2fVPxVkN2IRvaGLVHkQ6cSPlDhE0xNBRC23Go4mlw3dAbBCJR469-5yL$>

I take this opportunity to wish everyone Merry Christmas, an Happy New Year and 
possibly Happy Holidays.
--Bruno



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