On October 24, 2023 at 9:35:32 PM, 姜文颖 wrote:

[Your reply had changed the subject, so my filters didn't catch it.
:-(  Changing the subject back to the original.]


Wenying:

Hi!

Following up from the discussion @ IETF 119.

...
> > Do we need this new extension, or is
> > I-D.ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments enough? Why do we need a separate
> > document? Should the use case defined here be part of the already adopted
> > document?
>
> [WenYing] RFC8986 Section 4.2 End.X forwards to an endpoint with
> cross-connect to a 'layer-3 adjacency', as well as L2 bundle members of an
> L3 LAG interface.
>
> I-D.ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments extends the SR paradigm by
> associating SIDs with network resource attributes, but specific behaviors
> and actual application application scenarios are not defined.
>
> Compared to end.X, the forwarding behavior has been changed, according to
> RFC8986, we need to clearly define its behavior to make the forwarding
> instructions clear.
>
> This document defines the following behavior:
>
> Any SID instance of End.NRP behavior is associated with two sets:J1 and J2.
>
> J1:one or more L3 adjacencies
>
> J2:NRP of J1
>
> The End.NRP SID therefore can be used to build SR paths or virtual networks
> with a set of reserved network resources.
>
> It can be used to identify the set of network resources allocated on the
> segments for packet processing.


I understand that you're defining a new behavior.  However, your
description (last two sentences above) mirrors what
I-D.ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments already defines:

   The resource-aware SIDs retain their original forwarding semantics, but
   with the additional semantics to identify the set of network resources
   available for the packet processing and forwarding action. The resource-
   aware SIDs can therefore be used to build SR paths or virtual networks with
   a set of reserved network resources.


It is not clear to me that the two mechanisms cannot solve the same
use cases.  The difference is in this detail:

I-D.cheng-spring-srv6-policy-resource-gurantee: proposes allocating a SID
   with the End.NRP behavior for each set of network resources

I-D.ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments: proposes allocating a resource-aware
   SRv6 Locator for each set of network resources (keeping the existing
   behaviors)



What use cases cannot be addressed with the existing solution in
I-D.ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments?  [To the authors of
I-D.ietf-spring-resource-aware-segments: it might be useful explain
how the draft addresses the use case in
§3/I-D.cheng-spring-srv6-policy-resource-gurantee.]


The End.NRP behavior is a variation of the End.X behavior.  Will other
resource-aware behaviors also need to be defined in the future?


As mentioned before:


> > I expect to hear technical arguments that clarify the relationship and
> > justify having a separate document. I also expect other WG
> > participants (not just the authors) to express their opinions.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

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