Hi Nat,

Thanks for your review and the very good questions.

Please see inline [Bruno]

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Hi, Bruno.

Thanks for the draft. It's helpful to aggregate SIDs based on prefixes in an 
SR-MPLS network.

I have a few questions regarding this draft:

-In section 5, should the signaling direction be in the reversing order?
 (I may have missed something here)
Ex: in section 5.1:
  -For the aggregation segment (192.0.2/24):
    PE2.3 => P2 => ABR2 => P0 => ABR1
  -For the specific segment toward PE2.x:
    PE2.3 => P2 => ABR2 => P0 => ABR1 => P1 => PE1
[Bruno] Good catch. Fixed in my local repo.
-This may be a little bit out of the scope of this draft. If there are multiple 
aggregation segment advertisements with different label-related 
parameters(Sub-TLVs), how should we deal with them? Should we only use ones 
that include the reachability to the egress PE as ECMP legs or ignore 
aggregation segments with inconsistent parameters altogether?

[Bruno] Very good point. I’m assuming that you are referring to multiple 
aggregation segments for the same IP aggregate.

First, the draft is calling for not doing this: “If the same Aggregation 
segment is advertised by multiple nodes, it becomes an anycast segment. Absent 
specific provisions (e.g., context specific label) such anycast segment needs 
to advertise the same labels related parameters (first prefix, the absolute 
label associated with that first prefix) for all instances.”

Second, the protocols/signaling aspects are still very open for discussion. 
Drafts currently refers to two possible paths: “could be signaled in different 
ways e.g., as sub-TLV of the aggregate prefix advertisement, or as a separate 
advertisement on the lines of a Segment Routing Mapping Server (SRMS).”
We’d like to have feedback on this. What would be your preference?
This may affect the answer to your question. E.g. the SRMS style advertisement 
would be independent of the IP aggregate advertisement and could include a 
Preference (just like the current SRMS) or any other tie-breaking rule.

Thanks,
Regards,
--Bruno



Many thanks!
Nat

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 4:30 AM 
<bruno.decra...@orange.com<mailto:bruno.decra...@orange.com>> wrote:
[obviously speaking as individual contributor]

Hi all,

We have just published a short draft.
It introduces an Aggregation Segment for Segment Routing with MPLS data plane.
This can be used to aggregate IP prefixes along with their SR Prefix Segments. 
Aggregation Segments enable aggregation of IP prefixes to be performed at 
border routers to improve scalability of MPLS networks.

We would appreciate your review and comments.

Thanks,

--Shraddha, Ketan, Kamran, Bruno

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Name:     draft-decraene-spring-sr-mpls-aggregation-segment
Revision: 00
Title:    SR-MPLS Aggregation Segment
Date:     2025-03-03
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    9

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-decraene-spring-sr-mpls-aggregation-segment-00.html

Abstract:

   One of the key features of IP that has helped IP Routing to scale is
   aggregation of IP prefixes.  This is made possible with longest-match
   lookup in IP forwarding.  Contrary to this, MPLS forwarding works on
   exact match on MPLS labels.  This poses a challenge in aggregation of
   IP prefixes when the forwarding is based on the MPLS labels
   associated with those IP prefixes.

   This document introduces an Aggregation Segment for Segment Routing
   with MPLS data plane which can be used to aggregate IP prefixes along
   with their SR Prefix Segments.  Aggregation Segments enable
   aggregation of IP prefixes to be performed at border routers to
   improve scalability of MPLS networks.



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