Or for a buck a head, it should be an easy sell to the Owner. If it isn't,
then maybe you don't want this guy as a customer.....

Seriously, if you're putting new heads in a hotel room, why would you
consider anything but QR ?

Even if you have the AHJ buy in, imagine the fun a widow's lawyer will have
with you when there's a fire death. "Oh, so you didn't meet current
standards when you were replacing the sprinkler heads because it was another
$2 per room." If you value your retirement assets, you'll put it in your fee
and not even ask the Owner.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: both QR & SR sprinklers

Todd - The think the underlying question is whether you're required (verses
it being optional) to meet the current standard that requires QR or
residential heads in dwelling units.
Assuming the original installation was done prior to the above requirement,
you and the local AHJ may say the building is 'grandfathered'.  In that
case, select a replacement sprinkler that is SR listed and be done with it.
Otherwise, it would seem both sprinklers will need to be upgraded to QR or
residential (2002 edition - section 8.3.3.4).

Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO


>I have been looking at an existing hotel building where each guest room
>has
>a Central GB-LO extended coverage sidewall sprinkler covering the sleeping
>area and a Central Model H sidewall covering the space between the
>sleeping
>are and the room door. Since the GB-LO's are under recall, they are going
>to
>be replaced, most likely with Tyco TY-FRB K8.0 extended coverage
>sidewalls.
>My question is this; the Model H is a standard response sprinkler and the
>TY-FRB's are listed for both standard and quick response. Even though it
>is
>listed for SR, I assume that the response time is in QR territory. Is
>there
>going to be a problem mixing these two sprinklers? The demand area is the
>two sprinklers and the FRB spacing is 16x22 and we are using UL criteria.
>
>Todd G. Williams, PE
>
>Fire Protection Design/Consulting
>
>Stonington, Connecticut
>
>860.535.2080
>
>www.fpdc.com


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