Hello Greg, The last 3 projects we did where I put a head in the pit The AHJ did not require or request shutdown of the elevator. No head in the elevator equipment room either as it is dedicated for that equipment.
Monday, January 8, 2007, 12:53:55 PM, you wrote: > Roland, this is the first I have heard of this one. > Thanks, > Greg > Living Water Fire Protection, LLC > 1160 McKenzie Road > Cantonment, FL 32533 > 850-937-1850 > Fax: 850-937-1852 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland > Huggins > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: hydraulic elevators > The shunt trip hoopla is not required for the sprinkler in the pit. > Roland > On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Greg McGahan wrote: >> George, >> >> The AHJ's are the problem!! They say "we want what code says" but >> they are >> allowing other contractors to get away with it because the AHJ's do >> not know >> what they are doing! >> >> Here is the flip side of doing things right; if the AHJ is allowing >> other >> contractors to get away with this type of stuff then we end up >> looking bad >> to the GC's when we scream foul on their jobs when the electrical >> contractor >> hits them with the shunt trip change order and the GC did not have >> to do >> provide on previous jobs due to non-compliant contractors. >> >> And BTW, we are not infallible and have our own shortcomings as >> well so I am >> not trying to be "holier than thou" so to speak, but I appreciate >> the kind >> comments. >> Greg >> >> Living Water Fire Protection, LLC >> 1160 McKenzie Road >> Cantonment, FL 32533 >> 850-937-1850 >> Fax: 850-937-1852 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> George Church >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:41 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: hydraulic elevators >> >> Perhaps everyone else in the area installs to #13R ? >> Perhaps a call to the local AHJ(s) would clear up whether you're >> the only >> one doing it correctly, in which case maybe your competitors will be a >> little dismayed to find themselves going back and retrofitting their >> bottoms. The call to the AHJ(s) could be two-fold: ask them if they >> believe >> it should be required; and ask WHY it is not- you may find in the near >> future you're no longer alone in the shaft. >> >> George Church >> Rowe Sprinkler >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> David de >> Vries/Firetech >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:30 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: hydraulic elevators >> >> Pat on the back to the only contractor in the area complying with this >> provision of 13. >> >> -- >> David de Vries, P.E., CSP >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "Greg McGahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> >>> We are receiving mixed reviews from AHJ's regarding this issue: Are >>> sprinklers required in the bottom of hydraulic elevator shafts? >>> >>> I know what the code says but we have never been able to document >>> that ANY >> >>> hydraulic elev fluid is non-combustible by definition. I was >>> informed this >> >>> morning that we are the only contractor in the area putting >>> sprinklers in >>> the bottom of these shafts. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Greg McGahan >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum -- Best regards, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
