The wire seismic braces essentially bear no dead load, the piping supports
bear all the load. The wires are prestressed and pulled taut then crimped
when installed. There is no provision for post-installation tensioning. The
wires are calculated to resist the lateral loads imposed by an earthquake
during which time they are in tension. The local Fire Marshall has
apparently never seen this application before and is skeptical, implying
that if we had done it right the first time there would be no problem.

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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 6:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Seismic bracing - wire rope

Think about this for a moment. What would keep tension on the wire? 
One thing, the weight of the pipe. This means that the wire has to be
allowed to carry a certain amount of the weight of the pipe. I would check
the breaking strength of the wire, but I would assume that it could probably
hold more than you think. The solution may be as simple as loosening up the
knerl nut a turn or two (unless it's 40 ft in the air; then nothing is
simple)

As to what would cause it to loosen up over time, what about thermal changes
from when it was installed to now.  Was it installed and set cold and is now
in a heated building? If so, the wire might have expanded differently than
the rest of the system, causing slack. 
Also, have the upper or lower supports secure? Is there evidence of damage?


At 12:47 PM 2/2/2007, you wrote:
>Generally The "Wire Rope systems are "Tension Only" systems. These are 
>intended to be under tension in all directions at all times to prevent 
>movement of the pipe. If you have "Slack" you aren't preventing 
>movement. Call the MfG of the product your using and get their take on 
>it. It's their engineering that the product installation is based upon, 
>have them review the installation and placement for this application.
>
>Thom McMahon
>Firetech, Inc.
>2560 Copper Ridge Dr
>Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
>Tel: 970-879-7952
>Fax: 970-879-7926
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Battershell" 
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>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:06 AM
>Subject: Seismic bracing - wire rope
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>
>>
>>How much , if any, slack is allowed in wire rope used for seismic bracing?
>>Our fitters install the product we are using according to the 
>>manufactures directions and recommendations, but after a period of 
>>time (days/weeks) you can see slack in some of the braces particularly 
>>the lateral bracing.  I believe this is caused by the pipe getting 
>>knocked around by other trades during the installation of their work.  
>>In any case the fire marshal has questions that I need to be prepared to
answer. Please help.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>Richard Battershell
>>
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Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
860-535-2080
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