Tim, 905.4 #6 is the spacing requirement for a building with a standpipe. The 200 ft. dimension in itself does not trigger the standpipe requirement. IMHO
Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Sprinkler Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Simanton Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: IFC 503.1.1 Fire Apparatus Access The interpretation can also include the requirements from 2003 IFC Chapter 23 regarding High-Piled Combustible Storage. There is a requirement for fire department hose connections (Section 2306.8) which directs you back to Section 905 which also includes a requirement for Class I standpipe hose connections in sprinklered buildings when the most remote portion of a floor is more than 200 feet from a hose connection (Section 905.4 #6). Hope this helps. Tim Simanton Building Inspection Administrator Town of Gilbert 480-503-6822 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: IFC 503.1.1 Fire Apparatus Access They are requiring a 2.5" FHV inside at the man doors 100 ft. apart. The building is sprinklered 35 ft. high 300k sqft S1 (warehouse). Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Sprinkler Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R Richardson Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IFC 503.1.1 Fire Apparatus Access Technically they may be correct. THe 2003 IFC requires the fire apparatus to be within 150 ft. of all portions of the facility and all portions of exterior walls of the first story of the building. We tend to allow a significant increase in the 150 ft. when sprinklered, and have on occasion required a exterior "horizontal" standpipe, or yard standpipe as mitigation for the long hose lays required, but have never triggered a building standpipe. It is a rare firefighter that would expect a building standpipe in building less than 4 stories in height, and an even rarer firefighter that would use such a connection if it is not in a protected enclosure accessed via a protected passageway. Are they requiring protected access to the hose connections, or are these simply mid-floor hose connections. Rich Richardson Seattle Fire Department >>> "Fletcher, Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/05/07 12:20 PM >>> 503.1.1 "The fire apparatus access road shall comply with the requirements of this section and shall extend to within 150 feet of all portions of the facility and..." We have a local AHJ that is requiring a Class I standpipe when all "interior" portions of a facility are not within 150 ft. A few questions. Does the access requirement of 150 ft to "all portions of the facility" refer to exterior or interior? Is anything in writing like an official/unofficial interpretation? What do AHJ's do when the access dimension cannot be accomplished? P.S. Building in question is S1 300 ft. x 1025 ft. Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Sprinkler Phoenix, AZ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
