What Travis, Paul, Vance, John, Steve and yes, even George said.
Also check your State Fire Prevention Code and General Laws or Ordinances.

Tom Duross


>From the 2000 IBC Section 905;

905.3.1 Building Height - Highest Floor Level more then 30ft above lowest
fire dept vehicle access
905.3.1 Building Height - Lowest Floor Level more then 30ft above highest
fire dept vehicle access
905.3.2 Building Area- Bldgs Exceeding 10,000 SF per story, Any Bldg
Interior greater then 200ft from nearest fire dept vehicle access.
905.3.3 Group A-Nonsprinklered, Occupant Load Exceeding 1000
905.3.4 Covered Malls-Always
905.3.5 Stages-Greater then 1000 sf
905.3.6 Underground Buildings-Always

There are some exceptions and reductions, i.e. Class I's in lieu of Class
III's in 903.3.1.1 sprinklered buildings. A review of the building codes in
needed.

John Drucker
Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ)
New Jersey


Don't quote me...Look at your building code...but if you use IBC the
standpipe is required if the top floor is more than 30 ft. above grade

Bottom line-

Get the building code.  Generally speaking it is the building code that
adopts NFPA 14 by reference.  Therefore, any provision contained in the
building code trump base requirements in the NFPA document.

Paul Sincaglia, P.E.

So unless directed otherwise a building 75' or taller would need a
standpipe, correct?

           Regards,
              Brian Harris


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Standpipe Question

Your building height as directed in the applicable building code tells you
when you need them, or if specifics of your project require the AHJ, for
access reasons, to treat them as a necessity. I have a 3-story elderly where
the CEO was a volunteer FF and thus wants them added to his job even if not
required by code.

And, what Steve will say.

glc

I recently took a ½ day class on standpipes and have a stupid question to
ask.......

When or what determines if a standpipe is needed? Is it strictly based on a
building being considered high rise (75') or is there more to it than that?



           Regards,

              Brian Harris
First Defense Fire Protection
        Design Engineer


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