Mike
In USA - OSHA is the reason from memory for the red or yellow colour, we do not necessarily need these colours here in Australia or Eastern Islands (also known as NZ). It became a norm here as most approved cabinets we see are imported from the New World, UL/FM listed etc, or their look-alikes from developing nations. In NZ, I do not think OSH in New Zealand have this requirement, check HYPERLINK "http://www.osh.govt.nz/"www.osh.govt.nz. I could not find it. Closer to home (I am assuming you refer to this standard as well), Australian Standard AS 1940 requirements are (relevant bits and pieces only, with my notes in bold): 4.5 STORAGE CABINETS "4.5.2 Maximum capacity Not more than 250 L aggregate of flammable and combustible liquid shall be stored in any individual storage cabinet." (So you may need two of these for 500l) "4.5.3 Cabinet construction The construction of a cabinet shall be in accordance with the following requirements: (a) The walls, floor, door and roof shall be of double-walled sheet steel construction, with a space of not less than 40 mm between the walls, which may be either an airspace or filled with non-combustible insulation. (So glass is not allowed/recommended) (e) The materials of any components that are critical to structural integrity shall not melt at temperatures less than 850oC, seals or gaskets excepted. " "4.5.4 Cabinet marking Each individual cabinet shall be marked with the maximum capacity to be kept in the cabinet (see Clause 4.5.2), a Class 3 dangerous goods label of at least 100 mm nominal size, and a NO SMOKING, NO IGNITION SOURCES warning sign of at least 50 mm height." "4.5.6 Cabinet separation (As you have two off) The arrangement of cabinets shall be such that– (a) not more than 250 L is stored within any 250 m2 of floor area; and (b) not more than 250 L is stored in any 10 m of linear distance, and cabinets must not be less than 5 m apart." Note also a restriction on minor storage amounts of flammable liquids in Laboratories under Section 2, Table 2.1: for Packaging Groups I and II, minor storage amounts are restricted to 50 L per 50m2 of floor space. Our Workcover NSW (NZ OSH equivalent) has the following comments, along the same lines: "CAPACITY: Specification AS1940 permits cabinets with a maximum capacity of 250 litres. However storage cabinets for use in NSW are available to a maximum capacity of 850 litres. An exemption was granted by the Chief Inspector Dangerous Goods on 29 May 1989 to permit an increase in the maximum capacity of flammable liquids cabinets in NSW from 250 litres to 850 litres subject to certain conditions. The design of cabinets in excess of 250 litres must be approved by the Chief Inspector Dangerous Goods NSW." (here is your chance to build a 500 l unit) "CONSTRUCTION: The walls, floor, door and roof of a cabinet shall be double-walled sheet steel construction, with a space not less than 40 mm between the walls, which may be either an air space or filled with a non-combustible insulation. The cabinet bottom shall form a liquid tight compound at least 150 mm deep. Any shelf shall be perforated for free air movement. Cabinets intended for use inside a building must be either non-vented or vented to the exterior of the building." (does not refer to glass walls) "DOOR: A cabinet door shall be self-closing, close fitting and held shut by at least two catches. Catches and hinges shall not be made of plastics material." "NOTICES: The following notices must be displayed on the cabinet: 1. The flammable liquid diamond sign ...This diamond must be at least 250mm square. (Red background, black foreground) 2. The words "DANGER NO SMOKING KEEP FIRE AWAY" or "NO SMOKING NO IGNITION SOURCES" 3. The maximum capacity of the cabinet. These notices must be clearly visible from every access point to the cabinet." (Red or Yellow colour is not required at all, you can match the furniture or walls if you want) "SEPARATION DISTANCE: Irrespective of occupancy, not more than one cabinet shall be installed in each 250 square metres of building area and the distance between any two cabinets shall not be less than 10 m. A cabinet shall be located at least 3 m away from any ignition source. A cabinet shall be so located in relation to exits and stairways that the escape of persons shall not be jeopardised in the event of fire." So, in summary, I do not think you need to paint red, you can custom-build one to hold 500l as long as you pass the design through AHJ, you need the red diamonds. Fire rated glass, wow, have you got a costing for the whole front panels out of fire rated on a custom-made cabinet plus the fusible operated shutters in front? Sprinklers maybe cheaper after all! Cheers Jack Kilavuz J C Kilavuz & Assoc P/F: +612 9365 6480 M: +6141 9898 365 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams - work Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2007 1:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Flammable liquid storage cabinets in retail stores This may be a stupid question, but is there any reason a FL cabinet can't be painted whatever color you want? At 11:35 AM 4/13/2007, you wrote: >Cabinets of this type in various sizes are available from "Global >Industrial" see their web site www.globalindustrial.com >They have from 80 liter to 400 liter capacities, self closing doors, >and meet NFPA std. > >Thom McMahon >Firetech, Inc. >2560 Copper Ridge Dr >Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 >Tel: 970-879-7952 >Fax: 970-879-7926 >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Kingston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:11 AM >Subject: RE: Flammable liquid storage cabinets in retail stores > > >Michael, >One solution we used to keep everybody happy (happier) was to use some >commercial Velcro in strips on the cabinet face and also on the backs of >empty product containers. The products are displayed on the exterior >that way. >I think I was watching a news story of a human dart contest in NZ with >guys throwing their Velcro jumpsuit equipped mates onto the walls in a >bar, so you must have ready access to the Velcro product down there? >Kurt Kingston >Commercial Fire Protection Inc. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael >James >Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Flammable liquid storage cabinets in retail stores > >Hello, > >We have a retail store that sells a limited amount of class 1B flammable >liquids in 4 litre plastic containers for paint thinning and brush >cleaning >and the sprinkler protection schemes seem very expensive compared to >what is >required for the rest of the store. The quantity stored is around 500 >litres >hence our AHJ has suggested that flammable liquid storage cabinets would >be >an acceptable alternative. > >Does anyone know of a manufacturer of flammable liquid storage cabinets >complying with NFPA 30 that would be suitable for a retail store i.e. not >a >bright red or yellow steel box but possibly something with fire rated >glass >fronted doors or a roller shutter closing on a fusible link. While I >don't >mind the look of a bright red box the merchandising department has other >ideas. > > > >Thanks, > >Michael James >Fire Safety Engineer >Pacific Consultants >Auckland >NZ > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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