Craig, Consider what a 1/8th point increase in interest can do to both the total cost of the house and the monthly payment and then consider amortizing another 8K of a 160K house at the lower rate. What then affects the ability to buy? And by the bys, the average house in Seattle is about 350K.
On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't buy their reasoning that the extra $2-$4 a sq. ft would make 250,000 people unable to buy the house if sprinklers were added. For a typical 2000sq ft home in our area at $160K an additional $8000 shouldn't make or break the deal. If people's finances are that tight then drop down to a less expensive house. Go for 1500sf instead of 2000, GEEZ WHAT A CONCEPT, buy what you can afford! That's just a bogus argument that people would be forced to rent substandard housing instead of becoming home owners if sprinklers were mandatory. I see builders around here building $150K and up houses all over the place while the median income is like $35-40K a year. The builders need get their baseball caps screwed on straight. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: National Association of Home Builders is orchestrating amajoropposition campaign against residential fire sprinklers There are two big reasons they builders are opposed. One (stated reason) is the cost but more likely why have one more sub to create headaches. The second (non-stated reason) is that there is a ton of money made from repairing damaged houses. Roland On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:18 PM, Jack KGmail wrote: > John > Is that only me not getting it or are we (in Australia as well as USA > and Canada and New Zealand,....) missing the "common sense"? > 1- The cost to sprinkler a house is comparable to a carpet upgrade, > from cheap-end to reasonable-average carpet, perhaps $2-3 per sq ft? > Or upgrade appliances from average to better. With respect to what > this couple of bucks per sq ft can do, the cost is more than > acceptable in my book. > 2- Smoke detectors are a great invention, extremely cost-effective to > detect the fire at incipient stages and (hopefully) wake-up everybody > to a timely evacuation. Haven't seen any that douse the fire, control > its spread or put it out yet and been in this line of business for 25 > years! > 3- All building codes aim at the absolute minimum requirements, > "luxury items" like running hot water, air-conditioning etc are not > required to comply with the codes, but hey, haven't seen many houses > without these luxuries as well. > > Hope I am not alone thinking like that. > > Cheers from Downunder > Jack Kilavuz > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John > Drucker > Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 8:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: National Association of Home Builders is orchestrating a > majoropposition campaign against residential fire sprinklers > > Facts about Sprinklers from the National Association of Home Builders > > The home building industry is dedicated to the safety of the > communities in which they build. > > That's the reason why the National Association of Home Builders > supports programs that encourage the installation and maintenance of > smoke alarm systems in all homes. > > Home builders have a vested interest in the safety of their products > both during the building process and after the house becomes someone's > home. > Whenever changes are proposed to the building codes that govern how > homes are constructed in each community, the home builder acts as a > consumer advocate. It's the home builder's role to make sure that > these proposals are necessary and that they are cost effective before > they are adopted so that homes stay affordable. For each $1,000 added > to the price of a home, another 250,000 potential home buyers are > forced to remain on the sidelines. > > Home builders would never diminish the important role that cost- > effective building codes play in providing for occupant safety and > health; in fact, new homes are safer than ever. However, as a > society, we cannot afford to deny needed housing for the sake of new > requirements without proven benefits. > > While they should remain an option for home owners who choose them, > fire sprinklers in single-family homes are expensive to install, can > be difficult to maintain and do not represent a cost-effective safety > improvement over smoke alarm systems. For that reason, NAHB does not > support measures to mandate their use. > > http://www.smokealarmswork.org/firesprinklers/index.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject > field) > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: > 24/04/2007 > 5:43 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/776 - Release Date: > 25/04/2007 > 12:19 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject > field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
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