Roland,

Can you send the 6 sq. ft. information that Thom is referring to,
please?

Scott   

(763) 425-1001 Office 
(612) 759-5556 Cell 


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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: How Much Dry Floor Area?

Bill:

2007 discusses the shadow area and I think the area allowed for Res. is
6 
SF, if you attended Roland's and Chris's presentation on the 2007
standards 
at convention last Sept. this was in the notes.

New Question:
Residential 13 occupancy. With residential heads this is a 4 head
design, 
however I have had an AHJ say that even if you use QR in a Residential 
occupancy that it stay's a 4 head design. I've always used room design
or 
area density in residential occupancy's for which we had to use QR heads
for 
some reason. Have I been wrong all these years?

Example: Needed to run a dry attic location to feed QR dry Pend. in 
residential occupancy. 10 foot ceilings we use 900 Sf and increase by
30% 
for dry. He say's that we only needed to calc 4 heads, and uses NFPA 13,

1996 Fig. A-5.3.2.2 "Examples of design areas for dwelling units."
Shows 4 heads different configurations.

Any thoughts?

Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: How Much Dry Floor Area?


> Another obstruction question related to residential sprinklers.
>
> Figure 8.10.7.2.1.4 (2002) shows a sprinkler obstructed by a column. 
> Assume
> a 16' x 16' coverage area from a sidewall residential sprinkler and a
12" 
> x
> 12" column located 4' from the face of the column.  I calculate a 29
sq ft
> shadow area behind the column.
>
> Is this a correct interpretation of the Figure?  If so, is it possible
to
> shift this shadow area to another part of the room to show equivalent
> protection?  Is it appropriate to have 11% obstructed area in a 16' x
16'
> room?
>
> Since I'm on the subject of obstructions, what method should be used
to
> cover bunk beds?  Is furniture excluded?  Bunk beds were last
mentioned 
> here
> in October 2002 but not with respect to the obstruction hazard.
>
> Bill Brooks
> Pittsburgh, PA
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