"PLEASE DO NOT RE-START THE EVIL ENG. vs LAYOUT TECH THREAD!!!" Say what ?.................. How could one not restart this discussion with that hand granade !
Hey its really quite simple, at least in NJ. You need to get NICET xx accepted as an equivalent to the REQUIRED PE S/S, or change the construction code such that fire sprinkler design is not deemed engineering. Until that happens it is what it is. John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official New Jersey -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Eng. vs. Layout Tech. Just wanted to pass along how the engineers are confusing the issue even more. PLEASE DO NOT RE-START THE EVIL ENG. vs LAYOUT TECH THREAD!!! Section 13915 (Not yet into the 21st Century with 21.00.000, but at least they aren't still in 1986 Div. 15) 1.1.D "The contractor shall be the engineer of record for the fire sprinkler system." 1.5.B "Product samples of sprinkler heads to be reviewed by the architect/engineer" (Now is this the EOR or that other fellow that just said "It's all yours") 1.6 Quality Assurance A. "Installer Qualifications: Installers responsibilities include designing, fabricating, and installing fire-suppression systems and providing professional engineering services needed to assume engineering responsibility. Base Calculations on results of fire hydrant flow test. (Didn't he just say I was to be responsible for engineering, now he's telling me how to do that. Which is it to be?) 1.Engineering Responsibility: Preparation of working plans, calculations, and field test reports by a qualified professional engineer or NICET level III (or higher) Technician. Now is that installer qualifications or Designer/Layout Technician qualifications, or possibly "Fire Protection Contractor"/EOR Qualifications? Thom McMahon Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
