Jimmy,
Use C=100.  For 99.9% of the time this system is dry, and subject to the
corrosion and sediment build-up like all dry systems using black steel pipe.
John
John R. O'Connor,   SET, RME
National Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
Nashville  TN   37214



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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:48 PM
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Subject: Pre-Action C Value

Good afternoon everyone,  I am confused by some seemingly conflicting
wording about single-interlock pre-action systems and I need some help.  

 

Here is the situation.  We are protecting a warehouse with Large Drop Heads.
There is a cooler, and a separate Freezer.  They are storing up to 16 feet,
with a ceiling at 20 feet in these spaces.  We are protecting this space
with a Single-Interlock Pre-Action system with Large Drop Heads.  Here is
where I am getting confused.  All code references are in the 2002 edition.

 

7.3.2.5 - Double Interlock systems can't be gridded.  (So I can grid by
Single-Interlock)

12.3.2.2.5- (A) Consider the pre-action systems dry  (Table 12.3.2.2.1 (b)
is the appropriate table)

                      (B) When the detection system activating the preaciton
system will cause water to be at the sprinklers when they operate, preaction
systems shall be permitted to be treated as wet pipe systems.

Table 14.4.4.5 - Black Steel (dry systems including preaction) C Value of
100; Black Steel (wet system including deluge) C Value of 120.

 

SO, Is my Single-Interlock Preaction protecting the Cooler and Freezer a wet
system that I calculate with a C Value of 100?  This just seems very odd to
me and doesn't make much sense.  OR, since 12.3.2.2.5 (b) says by system is
wet, I calculate it with a C Value of 120?  Please help me sort this out.

 

Also, as a side note, is there any language that will let me eliminate hose
stations (in the 2002 edition) in a warehouse, storing up to 20 feet, with a
ceiling of 28 feet, containing a class 4 commodity on open shelf,
multiple-row racks?  

 

Thank you all in advance for your time and comments.

 

 

 

Jimmy Waite

Burtell Fire Protection, Inc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(406) 652-7697

 

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