As with most things in life, people only do what they have too, to get by.
PE's are no exception, only if they are held to a standard they cannot
comply with will they respond by doing what is necessary to meet that level
of competence. Many states don't even have continuing education
requirements. At least NICET got that part right.
Lic. By specialty, continuing education, and a higher level of competence
won't happen without someone complaining about what is happening now. Don't
fix what isn't broke, is the rule most Quasi Gov. bodies live by. If you
want it to change YOU WILL have to make it happen! PE's that don't know ESFR
from SSP, will continue as they are, unless someone speaks up.
As George would say "Just say NO!" to people working outside their area of
expertise.


Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



On a complaint they have to prove competence you do not have to prove
incompetence. This is especially true in States where PE's are general and
not licensed by specific testing.  For example I passed the fire protection
PE exam.  With the PE I can sign civil drawings IF I have training and
experience in such issues.  I do not have to take the CE exam.  If ever
called before the board I'd have problems because I have no training or
experience in CE matters.  Perhaps there are others with FP and CE training

and experience that could sign both legally by passing the EE test.   


Chris Cahill, P.E.

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