Glc. Since you brought it up, Detroit and Pittsburgh were pinnacles of American industry. It was not the unions or the workers which ruined these towns. It was a betrayal by our politicians. Our government propped up Japan after the war at the expense of American industry. And as for global competition, Ronald Regean corectly called communism the evil empire and our workers should not be forced to compete with slave labor. Patrick Buchanan has outlined this well in his book The Great Betrayel. Lincoln supported tarriffs to prevent England from dumping goods and negatively impacting our industrial base. The chairman of GM recently said that Japan only allows 7% of cars to be imported as part of their protectionist trade policy. There are some that blame the hard working Americans more than the politicians that sold out American industry. Is the answer to make everyone work for minimum wage? Maybe we can feed the retired workers dog food and take away their pensions and health care. The 300 pound gorilas are the Chinese communists that dump products into this country every day. So please don't blame the American auto workers and steel workers for the state of Detroit and Pittsburgh today. The fault lies with a government that's more interested in propping up other countries than governing its own.
Forest Wilson Cherokee fire Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Stewart Kidd <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:49:35 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: another fire - this will be interesting Interesting story - I have recently had 'discussions' with a consultant who has undertaken a 'fire engineering study' for an education dept in England which concluded that sprinklers were not needed in a new school (despite a presumption issued by the Government Department responsible for schools which states that all new schools should be sprinklered). I am minded to suggest that those who choose to ignore common sense and established principle should be held financially accountable for their actions and have already suggested to one of the major school insurers that they should, as a matter of policy, look for recovery of insurance payouts from consultants and others who play a role in deleting sprinklers from such projects. Could be an interesting case ! Happy New Year to all my friends at AFSA Stewart On 31 Dec 2008, at 13:28, Tom Duross wrote: > Well said George. > > Interesting epitaph at the end of the talking head's video, > The cost of damage as a result of the fire is in excess of > what the installation of sprinklers would have cost. > > Now that's a platform. > > Tom > > > Well, at least it was paper that burned, and not the people > mentioned in the > article about "the only things in there that can burn are people and > paper"..... > > It would be prudent for all of us to contact our congressmen in DC > with a > note pushing for installation of fire sprinklers in our schools as a > part of > the infrastructure investment that the president-elect plans. I > believe > high-speed internet, HVAC and electrical upgrades to improve > efficiency, and > similar items are what he intends to spend money on. It would make > sense to > try to get some of that funding dropped into Life Safety upgrades as > well. > Mention the Green side of sprinklers, you can avoid the chance for the > building to go up in polluting smoke. > > Anyone subscribing to this Forum should have the savvy to google their > congresspeople, and send em an email pushing for including > sprinklers. If > you don't, we won't get the funding, and we'll have no one but > ourselves to > blame. > > And so long as those email addresses are in front of you, you might > want to > change the topic and send another email protesting the planned > signing of > the Employee Free Choice Act, wherein the Free Choice of a secret > ballot > will be taken away from American workers in favor of a card check by > union > organizers- with no NLRB election. Congress seems concerned we big bad > employers are bullying our workers into not signing up with a union. > They > seem to miss the reality we experienced years ago, when 300 lb > gorillas > trespassed onto sites and vehicles in an attempt to sway our workers > into > being represented by their union. > > When was the last time you read about non-union workers performing > acts of > violence and intimidation against signatory workers? It's the other > way > around, and their success rate of representing our construction > industry > speaks for itself- from 80% of construction in the 1960's to less > than 15% > of today's construction industry. And let's face it, they still have > 15% of > the market since the government clings to the prevailing wages from > the > 1930's in an artificial propping up of their wage rates. > > Let's face it, Detroit and Pittsburgh are the poster children of > what the > autoworkers and steelworkers have done to promote a viable industry > here in > the USA. The last thing we need when trying to compete in a global > economy > is less efficiency in our labor. > > glc > > http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/news_wtnh_Shelton_High_fire_200812301825 > > Todd G. Williams, PE > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
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