The way I see it, If you have a situation "Outside of the scope of the code/standard" like a corrosive environment, and the EOR says use this product in this manner. Both you and the owner are protected from liability to the best of your ability, by the EOR knowing the extent of his design responsibilities from the start.
Our situation the EOR designed a code/standard compliant situation, outside of the code and standard and listing. Was this by intent? Or by error? Or a simple mistake? And by not knowing which do I assume some of that liability? Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:34 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: CPVC in Ord Hazard What did you hang the pipe with? Just because someone gave permission to install a product in a system outside of it's listing doesn't absolve a contractor of potential negligence if the system fails or does not perform as a listed component would. That could be kind of shaky ground. Was stainless not available? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 craig.pr...@ch2m.com http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:22 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: CPVC in Ord Hazard Sounds like a great project for your competition. Many moons ago (my previous employer), we did a partial system in a manufacturing area that was so caustic that galvanized pipe would rot in less than a year. We got permission to use CPVC and it held up fine. Other than that, stay away At 12:13 PM 4/16/2009, you wrote: >If an AHJ accepts CPVC pipe for an Ord. Group II warehouse >installation, is it ok to do a LH alteration to that system for office >space? Or is it better to just Run and make sure there is no connection >to you for any part in this system? > > > >I'm thinking "Don't Touch It!" Any other thoughts? > > > >Thom McMahon, SET > >Firetech, Inc. > >2560 Copper Ridge Dr > >P.O. Box 882136 > >Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 > >Tel: 970-879-7952 > >Fax: 970-879-7926 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >techsupp...@firesprinkler.org > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: techsupp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: techsupp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: techsupp...@firesprinkler.org To Unsubscribe, send an email to:sprinklerforum-requ...@firesprinkler.org (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
