Ron,

I think he is talking about the "Joint Ease" that we all use on groove
couplings. I have seen this many times, normally when you refill a system,
or when the couplings have been moved some. The gasket in the coupling
expands and squeezes out some of the "Grease" <- field term for the stuff.
It is actually a type of soap, and most use it to wash their hands at the
end of the day), and it causes small air bubbles around the perimeter of the
coupling. They look like ones you would see when using liquid soap to look
for a leak, only smaller. I have never seen an actual "leak" that drips or
is cause for further investigation, only the little bubbles, and that
normally stops when the gasket has fully expanded.

R/
Matt

 
Matthew J. Willis, CET
Automatic Fire Sprinklers
Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
318-387-1134 Voice
318-387-1163 Facsimile
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Lubricant Foaming

Questions:

Dry systems or wet?

If dry system what type of seals?

Can you identify the lubricant (i.e.: vegetable shortening,
manufacturer's recommended product, petroleum based product)?

Actually foaming (i.e.: expanding and looking like shaving cream or a
slightly more aerated product from an aerosol can)?

Is there just an over abundance of lubricant at the joints/

Is it dripping?

Does it occur all year or only during warmer days?



On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Thomas Watt<[email protected]> wrote:
> I believe I am the only one who received this so I have forwarded it after
stripping the pics. Anyone who would like to see them, just speak up.
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> Thomas Watt
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> I am looking for a technical (scientific) article that the following event
describes.
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> 1 year after the placement of a wet sprinkler installation, the lubricant
used to place rigid couplings, is foaming out of the coupling. See pictures
in annex.
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> I think that I found the cause of this, the use of too much lubricant
during the installation and the (small) movements of piping during the live
cycle, but I am still looking for a good text that describes the problem and
the cause on a more scientific way.
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> I hope some of you can help me out on this.
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Fire Protection Engineering
Bates Technical College
Tacoma, WA

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