Thanks Steve I really appreciate your input but I still do not follow ,
the Potter Roemer restricting valves are only listed for 175 psi inlet.
As I see it I still have the same issue of having a needed residual 230
p...@300gall to get 1...@300 (or 250 depending on city) out when using the
regulating valve (non-reg valves not allowed in LA). In a standard 12'
floor elevation change +5psi loss you cannot get from a regulating to
restricting in one floor because of the 175 listing on the restricting
valve. Note I need more than 175 psi up thru approx 4 floors.


Jerry M Costello set
Advance Fire Protection
Ph 714-526-2231  Fax 562-691-5482

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve
Leyton
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: High Rise Standpipes

Jerry:

There is invariably a break where the static (churn) pressure drops
below 175 in the standpipes, but above which you may still want pressure
regulation.   This is exactly how we do it in Lo-Cal and you want to
look into a pressure RESTRICTING hose valve.    They are much less
expensive than reducing valves, and very simple to adjust in the field.
Check out the Potter-Roemer catalog.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry
Costello
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: High Rise Standpipes

We are beginning to see more and more authorities require the class 1
outlets to supply 125 at 500 at roof and in the city of LA 125 psi at
300 gpm at all class 1 outlets. I seem to be finding that once you reach
a building height sufficient to require sprk/hose regulating valves then
they need to be installed all the way thru the roof. This because the
adjustment of the valves for the 125 psi setting does not allow you to
switch back to standard non regulating valves once you get to needed
elevation as you could in the past. Since the settings for the
adjustable valves require approx 230 psi/residual in to get 125psi
residual out, we are seeing what seems to me a pump sized much larger
than should be required. I have thought of installing pressure
regulating valves on the main vertical standpipes at a certain height,
but not sure this is good practice. Any thoughts? Are mfg companies
addressing this issue on a possible redesign?

Thanks for your time

 
Jerry M Costello set
Advance Fire Protection
Ph 714-526-2231  Fax 562-691-5482
 

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