Allan,

I've typically just had a weld-o-let
tapped on the standpipe below the frost line, cold galvanized as
necessary and then used a six inch piece of three or four inch plastic
french drain around the ball drip, sloped slightly away from the pipe
to inhibit silt infiltration (may or not be a problem--just using my
Aristotelian brain instead of my observational one to solve a
perceived problem) and then surrounding it with gravel. In a pinch
I've used a two liter coke bottle with holes punched in one side. Less
elegant but more McGyver.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM, AKS-Gmail-IMAP <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is it a light weight, four sided concrete box without a bottom and it
> has a light cast iron lid. The concrete sides flare outwards from the
> lid. It is a pyramid with the peak cut off where the lid is. You set
> it over the item, on concrete blocks and crushed rock, and then
> backfill around it.  It is made to order by your local buried concrete
> vault maker. Perhaps this is a local name.
>
> Allan Seidel
> St. Louis, MO
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:59 AM, David de Vries wrote:
>
>> Forgive my ignorance, Allan.  What is a standard pyramid box?  I
>> "googled" the term and did not come up with anything close to a
>> device I would install on a ball drip (unless some spiritual field
>> would do the job of protecting the ball drip).
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>> Firetech Engineering Incorporated
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, AKS-Gmail-IMAP <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: AKS-Gmail-IMAP <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Draining Free Standing FDC
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 7:38 AM
>>
>>
>> One method is: Put the FDC check in the building. Put a ball drip out
>> at the FDC, below frost, wrapped in drain cloth, in a gravel drain
>> field with a standard pyramid box over the ball drip location. Make
>> sure grade is not sloping into the pyramid box.
>>
>> Allan Seidel
>> St. Louis, MO
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Gobeli, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Forum,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the correct configuration to design and install a free
>>> standing
>>> FDC that is drained properly for a building without a basement?  Does
>>> the portion of piping below grade need to be drainable even though
>>> it is
>>> below the frost line?  A ball drip needs to be installed such that it
>>> can be determined whether or not the FDC check valve inside the
>>> building
>>> is functioning correctly.  An additional drain of some type must be
>>> installed below the frost line to drain the vertical barrel of the
>>> FDC
>>> just like on a fire hydrant.  I do not believe that this must
>>> entirely
>>> drain the below grade FDC piping, just the piping above the frost
>>> line.
>>> Does a vault need to be installed for a ball drip on the underground
>>> portion of this pipe or just a proper drain field?  How is this done
>>> in
>>> industry?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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