A.5.14.5 of NFPA 20 2007 ed. says that if the supply is from public water mains 
then the gate valve SHOULD be located as far as is practical from the suction 
flange.  I'm not sure why because the commentary goes on to say that the gate 
valve does not interfere with the flow when it is fully open.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dewayne Martinez" [deway...@dbfp.net]
Sent: 12/09/2009 11:04 AM CST
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Subject: RE: fire pump - 10 diameters



Your right Thom, in fact NFPA 20 only requires the 10 pipe diameters
distance for a horizontal split case.
Dewayne Martinez
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: fire pump - 10 diameters

In line pumps are generally more forgiving than other pumps as far as
the 10X dia.

Thom McMahon, SET
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bobby
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Subject: RE: fire pump - 10 diameters

I have applied it with the OS&Y and never had any problems from AHJ of
pump rep. This is a horizontal bend not vertical correct? I have piped
up and back down in an extremely tight space.

Bobby Gillett

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