Then there is a further subset of Listed indicating valves.  A ball valve
may very well indicate its position but I don't think they are any Listed as
a fire sprinkler control valve. I think the 5 second rule is what eliminates
them from the Listed variety of a generic indicating valve.  So pay
attention to the purpose of the valve and whether it needs to be Listed or
not.  

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: chr...@sentryfiremn.com
 
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Karen Purvis
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 2:50 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Definition

Yes this answered the question, which of course was the answer I thought but
was prompted to ask anyway. Thanks all.

Karen Purvis
Senior Designer
Facility Systems Consultants
713 South Central Street,
Suite 101
Knoxville, TN 37902
ph.865-246-0164
fax 865-246-1084
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kettler
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:54 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Definition

An OS&Y is one type of indicating valve. A Post Indicating Valve (PIV) would
also fall into that category. It wouldn't HAVE to specifically be an Outside
Stem/Screw and Yoke valve.

The indicating portion would be signage as part of the valve showing "OPEN"
or "SHUT/CLOSED" or some other means to clearly show the valve position.

Not sure if that answered the question though!



James M. Kettler, EFO, CFPS
Director of Building and Codes/Fire Marshal
Buckingham Township
PO Box 413
4613 Hughesian Drive
Buckingham, PA   18912
215-794-8836
www.buckinghampa.org




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Karen Purvis
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:39 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Definition

Can anyone give me a definition of "indicating shut-off valve". My guess is
that it is an OS & Y but don't know.



Karen Purvis

Senior Designer

Facility Systems Consultants

713 South Central Street,

Suite 101

Knoxville, TN 37902

ph.865-246-0164

fax 865-246-1084

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