Well said George. Couldn't agree more. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: SC Newspaper articles about the adoption of the 2009 IRC in SCand possible legislative action
"what is best for me NOW" Need to add that one little word, since citizens (until recently) also judged in the short term. Should the govt extend benefits to the unemployed in the face of this economic duress? Asked in that way, yes. Should the government borrow money from the Chinese and require our grandchildren to re-pay the Chinese, with interest, all this additional debt atop the HUGE amounts already spent recently that also will need to be re-paid with interest by the same generations, so we can fund additional unemployment benefits beyond what is provided under the law, even though we don't know what the total debt accumulating to our heirs will be, nor what their economic status will be? Gee, worded like that, let's toss some tea. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: SC Newspaper articles about the adoption of the 2009 IRC in SCand possible legislative action Very well said. The problem is a systemic one. Very difficult for statesmen to get reelected. In a society that always asks "what is best for me" instead of what is best for the country as a whole; the politician fits the bill better. If a representative doesn't bring home the bacon he isn't around long. Many times bringing home the bacon to a specific jurisdiction is not the best decision for the whole but has become the standard by which all reps are judged. Rod DiBona Rapid Fire -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Blackwell Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: SC Newspaper articles about the adoption of the 2009 IRC in SC and possible legislative action Technically I believe we are classified as a Republic. Luckily, we don't have direct democracy as the Greeks experimented with way back when... We elect people to represent us and empower them to act on our behalf. If we are lucky, they do that. Hopefully they act as a benevolent parent and don't do things to our detriment such as spoil us or rob us of our future social security... Unfortunately, there is a world of difference between a politician and a statesman. To better illustrate the point I show you the following illustrations from the web article & comments for "Leadership in a nutshell: Politician vs. Statesman", February 8, 2008 by Miki Saxon: Politicians talk it - Statesmen walk it Politicians run to win - Statesmen run to serve Politicians are ideologues - Statesmen are open-minded Politicians, "it's all about me" - Statesmen, "it's all about them" Politicians focus on the next election - Statesmen focus on the future Also: Politicians posture - Statesmen act. A Statesman leads from in front of the people - A politician tries to influence and pander behind-the-scenes Statesmen do what's right and correct - Politicians do what is expediant and popular Those who can't commit, committee... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 6:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: SC Newspaper articles about the adoption of the 2009 IRC in SC and possible legislative action Both articles were good. Best was Ms. Williams in the Courier and Post. She is obviously an advocate. Ms. Rupon's in The State was a more balanced "reporting" but as we all know she reported on the Builder's untruths as passionlessly a she reported on the win. The reader's comments were upsetting but certainly reflected the state of democracy in our day and age--opinions based on opinion. Sometimes I deplore the egalitarian nature of western democracy but to paraphrase Churchill, as bad a form as it is, it's the best form we've got. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:15 AM, David Blackwell <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/feb/28/politics-endanger-sprinkl > er-mandate/ > > http://www.thestate.com/2010/03/01/1180617/builders-say-change-too-costl > y.html > > > > > > David W. S. 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