I've run into the same issue in a large industrial plant with two dry pipe 
valve, a plumber with many years of experience offered this his advice on 
quickly finding leaks: 

1.Use liquid Fluorescent Green Tracer,  add about 1 ounce to the dry pipe 
valve, mixed into priming water. 

2. Allow the system to charge with air , then trip at the furthest inspectors 
test point or drum drip from the DPV. 

3. Open each drum drip and test valve to ensure the tracer dye is in contact 
with all piping in the system

4. Allow the system to remain pressurized with water for about 15 min.

5. Use a ultraviolet light source to located the leaks. 
( Works much better if you can turn off the lights, in a darkened warehouse I 
could spot leaks from the floor to the pipe, 35 feet AFF)

Note:

 A. The dye is EPA registered and can be flushed into the sewer system or left 
to evaporate on a parking lot without concern about ground water    
contamination. 

B. The dye is very concentrated, 8 ounces will treat 6,000 gallons of water. 

C. Available from: 

Black Light World
PO BOX 26
Cub Run, KY. 42729 
Fax: 270 721-0073
E-mail: [email protected]
Website:  http://www.blacklightworld.com/index.htm   



Hope this helps, 

Yours truly, 

FRANK J. HERRICK
CITY OF LEAWOOD FIRE DEPARTMENT  
OFFICE OF THE FIRE MARSHAL
14801 MISSION ROAD
LEAWOOD, KS. 66224-9560
-----Original Message-----
From: Letterman, Todd [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 25 Dry system leaks 


It has always been my experience that most leaks are at the valve,
compressor, or drip drums if it has one, this is where I would start
first. 

Todd Letterman
Fire Protection Engineer SET CFPS
Riverside County Fire Department   "Fire never sleeps"
(951) 955-5273 FAX (951) 955-4886
[email protected]
 
" Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass but learning how to
dance in the rain"
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Forest Wilson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: NFPA 25 Dry system leaks 

We have a 20000 sq ft wood building, dry system in attic and below 
ceiling.
It has several small leaks, loosing about 5.5 psi air per hour.
I don't have 25 in front of me, but I recall a 24 hour air test is done 
to ensure system holds without tripping at 5 year intervals.
We have to cut holes in the drywall ceiling to access many of the pipe 
joints.
Since everyone is on a budget, I was going to suggest to the owner he 
could have us do this work in a 3 year timespan, one third of the 
building per year replacing leaks as found during a thorough 
inspection.
Does this sound acceptable?

Forest Wilson Project Manager Cherokee Fire Protection Co. 1855 
Bellbrook Ave. Ste C
Xenia OH 45385
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