Chris ,

 Thanks for sharing the adversity map . It's interesting to see how the decline 
has taken place over the last few years . It is small comfort to know that I'm 
not alone in all this ,but I'm glad to see some areas at least are beginning to 
see some improvement.

Lamar Vaughn , SET

 
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Chris Cahill <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > Normal, as compared to what?  We've had nearly infinite growth in activity
> > (something/0) compared to last year but to a few years ago we're still
> > doing
> > next to nothing. I think now is the new normal and a lot closer to 0.  Give
> > us 4-6 years and we MIGHT be closer to the normal of a 3 years ago.  At
> > least in these parts our decline started in '07.  I believe many parts were
> > way behind us in the fall and are way ahead in the recovery.  MN and I
> > suspect MI are high tax, high regulation, high government States.  All
> > factors in wrecking a good business climate.  OK now tell me it also has
> > something to do with I live closer to the North Pole than the Equator in
> > real terms and climate terms.  Yes it did snow very little 10 days ago.
> >  But
> > I also think it snowed near Thom yesterday.
> >
> > Check out this site showing, if you "play it", the collapse and recovery on
> > a state by state basis.  You'll note most of the country is in recovery
> > which again just means something more than when they were at the bottom.
> >  No
> > comparison to normal.
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29976394/ns/us_news-the_elkhart_project/
> >
> > Chris Cahill, P.E.
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> > At 10:22 AM 5/19/2010, you wrote:
> > >I know its not real technical but are there any areas in the country with
> > >normal work load right now? Here in Michigan it doesn't look like anyone
> > has
> > >anything going. I wonder what the long term effects of this are. With all
> > >the vacent buildings around now how long after the economy "recovers" will
> > >construction lag behind?
> > >
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