Or Ductile Iron where required.

Bobby Gillett
Sr. Project Manager
Key Fire Protection, Inc.
(731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax 
(731) 267-4853 cell
[email protected]
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timothy W
Goins
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Ductile for FDC Underground

C900 PVC with DI fittings is the way to go.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Phelan
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Ductile for FDC Underground


Greetings -

 

Working on a problem currently - here's the synopsis of it:

 

Building built in 1998-1999 with sprinklers throughout.  FDC is located in
the front at the street approximately 25 feet from actual building.  FD
responds to a fire and supports the FDC (125 PSI) when they notice red muddy
water percolating up through the ground between the building and FDC.  They
cease supplying the FDC and the interior crews save the day.  Now comes the
diagnosis and repair work -

 

Excavate the entire FDC line and it appears to be ductile iron pipe (4") and
runs from the check valve inside the foundation wall straight out of the
building for 24 feet and then has its first fitting to connect to the FDC
base.  No couplings or fittings otherwise in the line.  The FDC check valve
is a Victaulic and is marked 250 PSI Ductile Iron which further supports my
belief the piping is DI.  The wet system piping is ordinary Sch 10 grooved.
Does DI come in 24 foot lengths normally ?

 

Upon cleaning the pipe numerous holes from pins to thumb sized are found
along a four foot section of the piping.  Repairs are being prepared but I'm
curious about the use and selection of DI for a dry - empty FDC line into
the building.  Also wondering if such deterioration is plausible in just 12
years or so.  The fill in this section of pipe is a red clay and not the
cleanest fill (rocks) around but these holes don't appear to be physical
impact damage.

 

Any thoughts - on the DI or better yet another pipe material for the
installation to prevent future problems in 12 years.  I was thinking it
should be galvanized pipe and wrapped in heavy plastic prior to burial and
using clean sand around the pipe but I'm not a designer either.

 

Thanks-

Dave P.

A firefighter with just enough knowledge to be dangerous

 

 

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