Wolves at the door ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Thu Aug 26 11:15:50 2010 Subject: RE: Court Strikes Down Pennsylvania Builders Association's Bid to Keep
Locusts are one of my favorite analogies in the lexicon of these issues. The others are "hordes at the gate with torches and pitchforks" and "I'm not Henny-Penny and the sky really isn't falling." Feel free to use at your local code adoption hearings ... SL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Court Strikes Down Pennsylvania Builders Association's Bid to Keep Stewart, Didn't these guys learn anything in 1666? Do they still use pikes and leather buckets? And today I'm feeling Biblical so I vote for plagues of locusts, or, and more befitting, plagues of termites. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Stewart Kidd <[email protected]> wrote: > Nice to see common sense as well as jurisprudence triumphing - unlike the > present position in the UK where the coalition Conservative/Liberal Democrat > administration is proposing to repeal local regulations in several counties > which permit the local fire authorities to require sprinklers in large > storage occupancies - something only required for storage occupancies above > 215,000 square feet in the national codes. > > Mind you, I like the idea of builders being struck down - mumps ? measles ? > plagues of locusts ? > > Stewart > On 26 Aug 2010, at 12:40, Jay Stough wrote: > >> What was interesting was that the builders wanted the 2006 codes because the >> 2009 was not enacted correctly. The courts looked at the evidence provided >> by >> the builders and found that the 2006 was not enacted correctly and the 2009 >> was >> enacted correctly, so they said you cannot go back to the 2006 since that was >> not legal. If you want a copy of the verdict, I have it. >> >> >> Jay Stough >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: George Church <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 7:38:28 AM >> Subject: Court Strikes Down Pennsylvania Builders Association's Bid to Keep >> >> >> Court Strikes Down Pennsylvania Builders Association's Bid to Keep >> Fire Sprinkler Systems Out of Homes >> >> PATTERSON, N.Y. (August 25, 2010) - The National Fire Sprinkler Association >> (NFSA), the longest-tenured fire sprinkler advocacy organization in the >> U.S., applauds >> the decision made by the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania on August 25, >> 2010, that >> determines the process used to adopt the 2009 edition of the International >> Residential >> Code (IRC), including the residential fire sprinkler requirement, was >> constitutional. >> This decision will allow the Commonwealth to continue enforcing the >> requirement that >> homebuilders must install fire sprinkler systems in all newly constructed >> townhomes built >> after January 1, 2010, and all newly constructed one- and two-family homes >> beginning on >> January 1, 2011. This decision reaffirms the vote of the Pennsylvania >> Independent >> Regulatory Review Commission, which voted on December 10, 2009, to adopt the >> 2009 >> IRC Code and Commonwealth Court Judge Johnny Butler's decision to deny the >> Pennsylvania Builders Association's (PBA) request for a primary injunction >> in March. >> "We applaud the court's decision in determining that the process to adopt >> the 2009 >> edition of the IRC in Pennsylvania was constitutional and followed the >> procedures as >> outlined by the Pennsylvania Construction Code Act (PCCA)," said Tim >> Knisely, cochair >> of the Pennsylvania Residential Fire Sprinkler Coalition. "The residential >> fire >> sprinkler requirement is a life safety regulation, which will protect both >> residents and fire >> service professionals from the dangers of lightweight construction." >> In the case between the PBA and the Department of Labor and Industry, the >> PBA argued >> that the process used to adopt the 2009 IRC Code was unconstitutional and >> did not >> provide interested parties the chance to voice their opinion about the >> requirements in the >> code. During the code adoption process, the Uniform Construction Code Review >> and >> Advisory Council, held four separate public meetings about the 2009 IRC Code >> at which >> time the PBA's testimony against the code and the residential fire sprinkler >> requirement >> was heard. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Bates Technical College 1101 So. 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