So what if the modifications are "minor?" Would the schedule mysteriously then not apply? Even OH to EH if the schedule meets EH. Or vice versa like my building.
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > But if there is a change in occupancy? > > > At 10:19 AM 9/16/2010, you wrote: >> >> Although within his authority the AHJ is being unreasonable to require >> the calcs. If minor modification is being done to pipe schedule >> systems than the pipe schedule should apply and your new work just >> needs to fit the schedule. The whole concept between pipe schedules >> and calculations is that with calculations you can have more >> flexibility of design and can more precisely predict performance and >> thereby possibly reduce cost by using less materials, in our case >> smaller diameter pipes. After you calc this scheduled system you'll >> see how over built it is just like the residential plumbers' rules of >> thumb for plumbing fixture pipe sizing. >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Brian Harris >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I guess that makes sense...... >> > >> > Brian Harris >> > FDFP Inc. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew >> > J. >> > Willis >> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:00 AM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: RE: Pipe Schedule Systems >> > >> > Then it will no longer be a pipe schedule, but a calculated system. >> > Which >> > requires hose streams. >> > >> > R/ >> > Matt >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Matthew J. Willis, CET >> > Automatic Fire Sprinklers >> > Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. >> > 318-387-1134 Voice >> > 318-816-1087 Mobile >> > 318-387-1163 Facsimile >> > [email protected] >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >> >From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum- >> >> >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris >> >> >Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:57 AM >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >Subject: RE: Pipe Schedule Systems >> >> > >> >> >David- >> >> >We are doing some minor work to an existing warehouse that was done >> >> > with >> >> >the >> >> >pipe schedule method. Now the AHJ wants us to provide hydraulic calc's >> >> > to >> >> >show him if the existing system will work. >> >> > >> >> >Brian Harris >> >> >FDFP Inc. >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >> >From: [email protected] >> >> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Autry, >> >> >David >> >> >Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:39 AM >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >Subject: RE: Pipe Schedule Systems >> >> > >> >> >What exactly would you add it to? >> >> > >> >> >David Autry >> >> >Plans Examiner >> >> >Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office >> >> >246 S. 14th Street >> >> >Lincoln, NE 68508 >> >> >402-471-9659 >> >> >402-471-3118 fax >> >> >www.sfm.ne.gov >> >> > >> >> >** Note new email address: [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >> >From: [email protected] >> >> >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian >> >> >Harris >> >> >Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:36 AM >> >> >To: [email protected] >> >> >Subject: Pipe Schedule Systems >> >> > >> >> >I swear I read somewhere that for a pipe schedule system you do not >> >> > need >> >> >to >> >> >add hose allowance, Am I nuts? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Brian Harris >> >> > >> >> >First Defense Fire Protection >> >> > >> >> >11957 Ramah Church Road >> >> > >> >> >Huntersville, NC 28078 >> >> > >> >> >Phone: 704.948.3506 >> >> > >> >> >Fax: 704.948.3507 >> >> > >> >> >Nicet # 128476 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >======= >> >> >Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> >> >(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15890) >> >> >http://www.pctools.com/ >> >> >======= >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Sprinklerforum mailing list >> >> >[email protected] >> >> >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> > >> >> >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >To Unsubscribe, send an email >> >> > to:[email protected] >> >> >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Sprinklerforum mailing list >> >> >[email protected] >> >> >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> > >> >> >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >To Unsubscribe, send an email >> >> > to:[email protected] >> >> >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >======= >> >> >Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> >> >(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15890) >> >> >http://www.pctools.com/ >> >> >======= >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >======= >> >> >Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> >> >(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15890) >> >> >http://www.pctools.com/ >> >> >======= >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Sprinklerforum mailing list >> >> >[email protected] >> >> >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> > >> >> >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >To Unsubscribe, send an email >> >> > to:[email protected] >> >> >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3137 - Release Date: >> >> > 09/16/10 >> >> >01:34:00 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > >> > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe, send an email >> > to:[email protected] >> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ======= >> > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15890) >> > http://www.pctools.com/ >> > ======= >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ======= >> > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15890) >> > http://www.pctools.com/ >> > ======= >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sprinklerforum mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> > >> > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe, send an email >> > to:[email protected] >> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Ron Greenman >> Instructor >> Fire Protection Engineering Technology >> Bates Technical College >> 1101 So. 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