:) make mine a double. I enjoyed every response, and look forward to more-
(I CAN sleep, but it is fitful). To me the inequality is not so complicated-
we come up with a certain calc area- THEN, if dry, increase 30%. For the
example I gave, we increase over 200%- straight out of 13, no modeling,
tests, or changing tried and true applications.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Greenman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: a glaring inequality in 13?

Bingo. And I have some olden editions full of stuff that was different
then than now. I don't know why but I can assume the authors did. I
can fret about it and try to second guess what the were thinking or I
can have a nice Scotch.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Thom <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What I see is general Knowledge of what works vs. both the expense to run
> real tests of every possible config. And the lack of quality modeling to
use
> in lieu of all those tests.
> If one of you wins the Powerball and wants to donate the cost of testing,
> that's about the only way I see this difference between what is! And What
> MAY be appropriate.
>
> Money talks, but experience rules! 13 is mostly over 100yrs of not having
to
> re-think what didn't work, but following what did.
>
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