The Consultant:

1)Scope- not simply "Provide Throughout"-- how many of what type systems
where, for total square footage of sprinkler protection this contract.
2)Code- What edition of what code, and if minimum from them is acceptable.
If not, how much more of what is? E.G., 13 does not require concealers
centered in lay-in ceiling tiles- if the Owner does, this is the place to
say it.
3)Water Supply- What will minimum available at the Base of Riser be?
4)Product Data- If not whatever is allowed by code, exactly what do you
want? Hopefully you will not say "Flex head connectors are acceptable, but
if used, flanges shall be 250 lb".
5) Do what Ron (oops I mean 'Ron's Anonymous Friend') suggested. 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Casterline [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: top five list

1) Scope
2) Code
3) Water Supply
4) Product Data
5) Spot the dots, connect the dots, Calc, Stocklist, Bill 'em 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: top five list

Duane,

When you say consulting are you talking about A/E firms?

In real basic, simple terms (definitely not all inclusive):

A/E Fire Protection Specialist:
1. Obtain description of the use of the occupancy.
2. Identify applicable codes.
3. Identify Insurance Underwriter, Risk Consultant, AHJ and any specific
additional requirements.
4. Perform fire hazards analysis.
5. Determine fire protection systems design criteria based on hazards
analysis, applicable codes and any additional requirements.


Contractor:  (not design/build)
1. Obtain A/E drawings or occupancy descriptions
2. Verify water data, code data, system design criteria
3. Throw A/E drawings in the trash*
4. See list of items under heading of A/E above.
5. Prepare installation drawings.


*This is not applicable for all A/E submitted drawings and should not be
taken as an indictment against any A/E firm its engineers, designers or
other related staff, their families or pets, living or dead or in a
semi-comatose state stuck at their desk. Your results may vary.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: top five list

I will be a guest lecturer at the Univ of Md next week.  I will be providing
a list of must do's while preparing sprinkler drawings.  Knowing that many
students will be going to work for consulting firms and others to
installation firms, I want to provide input from both perspectives.  So I
ask the forum the following questions... here is your chance to provide
input to future industry personnel:


If you were asked to provide a top 5 list that an engineer should
do/identify on a sprinkler design, what would they be?


What are the first 5 items a sprinkler designer should do when preparing
drawings?


Feel free to email me direct.
Thanks.

Duane Johnson, PE
Program Manager
Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor)
Office of Research Services
National Institutes of Health
301-496-0487

"Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"

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