Or conversely they could see a few heads here and there and wonder what in the 
world you were thinking of with that spacing?

If the space above the ceiling doesn't require any sprinklers it would be best 
to remove all, use the outlets you need and cap the unused ones. Revise the 
riser tag and call it a day.


Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:07 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Tenant finish and existing sprinklers

That's what I am trying to preach to my office.  I don't want any
confusion about what is up there.  Someone could take a quick look and
see a few upright sprinklers and assume the it is fully protected above.
Thanks 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hill
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Tenant finish and existing sprinklers

I do not know of any code that says you must take them out. I would
however either take them all out or leave them all in. Do not leave an
area that does not meet code  (or could be easily confused as not
meeting code).
Leaving a few of the uprights can give the 'illusion' of a non-compliant
system. 

That was advice I received 25 years ago and I still practice it.

Mike Hill

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne
Martinez
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Tenant finish and existing sprinklers

Thanks Dale,
Since sprinklers are not required in this space per code, why couldn't
you leave some in?  You are still complying with code.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dale
Wingard
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Tenant finish and existing sprinklers

Dewayne,

IBC 901.2(2006) allows for a non required system to be installed or
remain as it exists, but it is required to meet the code requirements.
If you remove any uprights then you will need to remove all of them that
are located in the non combustible concealed space.

Dale F. Wingard, SET
Design Manager
Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc.
251.649.2034
[email protected]

 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne
Martinez
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Tenant finish and existing sprinklers

I think this was talked about but I couldn't find it in the archives.
I have a noncombustible tenant spec building that currently has upright
sprinklers installed.
I am going to use the existing sprinkler outlets to supply the areas
with finished ceilings.
Is there somewhere in NFPA or IBC/IFC that requires the existing upright

sprinklers to be removed and plugged from the finished ceiling areas if
I don't use the outlet?
 
Thanks,
Dewayne Martinez
Design Build Fire Protection
New Berlin, WI
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