Very well said,Ron.I'll pass the word,there IS understanding on the
other side!
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Ron Greenman wrote:
Truthfully, all the AHJs represented on the Forum are not the anyone's
target, and I WILL be arrogant enough to speak for all of us. Just
being
here, as said many times before, suggests being open to an exchange of
ideas, even if some of us short-tempered types upset a few fellow
forumites
from time to time. And I'll say from my experience most AHJs recognize
their
limitations and are cognizant of the power they wield, and are
reasonable,
rationale people trying to do what's best for all concerned parties,
owner,
contractor and the public in the most collaborative way possible. But
just
like the moron PEs using a license as a stick, or the shlocko
contractors
doing crap work, their are AHJs that are problematical. These are the
guys
I'm dissing and I'll be at the head of the line for my own ridicule
when my
stupidity is brought to light.
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:05 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
OK,so you would be considered one of the good guys.But believe me,if
you
get an inspector who is as far off the mark as the one described in
the
situation that started this thread,you just have to hold your breath
and
hope he doesn't come up with something even worse than telling you
that you
have all your heads overspaced.I would like to help in the
instruction of
AHJ's like this one,but how do you approach this without making the
situation worse by offending.I once had an AHJ end a discussion with
me by
simply saying "Well,I'm the Inspector here and I assume you people
want to
get a C.O. for this building".I beat a hasty retreat and complied
with his
request (I can't remember what that was,but I disagreed...hate
getting
old).Maybe I will get the chance to work in your jurisdiction
someday.
Lamar Vaughn
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Smith, Steven D. (CSFD) wrote:
Your first sentence, I agree 100%. For the rest however, it just may
be
me, but I think that any GOOD AHJ or Contractor would be willing and
wanting to hear all points of perspective. There have been many
times
where I have called something out only to take a second look at it
based
on another perspective.
Steve
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Teachable moments can only occur when you have TWO willing
parties.The
person rejecting your installation is normally not interested in why
you
think he/she is wrong.If he/she wants your opinion,they will ask for
it.
Lamar Vaughn
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