Bob,

The language below is from the handbook, and might help in deciphering the requirements:

   The seismic separation assembly shown in Figure A.9.3.3(a) or Figure
   A.9.3.3(b) is
   intended to provide sufficient flexibility to accommodate the
   substantial relative motion
   that can be expected at building seismic separation joints. In many
   cases, providing
   each building section with its own riser can be more economical.

   The seismic separation assembly is not required on piping located
   below ground level.
   Other aspects of earthquake protection, such as bracing and
   restraint, are, nevertheless, required
   below ground level.

   The seismic separation assembly is required for all piping that
   crosses seismic joints at
   ground level and above, including branch lines, without regard for
   pipe size.

   Several listed flexible piping assemblies are now available that can
   be used as seismic
   separation assemblies where they provide the intended flexibility.
   The provision of intended
   flexibility means that the assemblies must be designed to allow full
   closure of the seismic separation,
   opening of the seismic separation to twice its original width, and
   offsets in both the
   vertical and horizontal planes equal to the width of the seismic
   separation.

   There is no requirement that a listed device be used for this
   purpose, but the piping
   configuration to be used as a seismic separation assembly must be
   approved by the
   authority having jurisdiction

Hope that gives you some clarification of the intent. Insert NFPA committee disclaimer here.

PARSLEY CONSULTING

Ken Wagoner, SET

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On 10/20/2011 5:20 PM, Ron Greenman wrote:
Bob,

I'd go to my Lubrizol rep for this. The language seems a little too limp to
hang a hat on.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Bob<[email protected]>  wrote:

I'll try to answer my own question in part.  13, 9.3.3.2 states, "shall
consist of flexible fittings or flexible piping".  Under the Advantages
heading Blazemaster states " Flexibility in the piping for greater ease of
installation"  and "Greater resistance to seismic activity than copper or
steel systems".  Based on this it seems to me that the expansion loop would
suffice.   Can anyone back this up or demonstrate why it's incorrect?

Thanks,

Bob Knight, CET III
208-318-3057
www.firebyknight.com




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Seismic Separation Assembly

In regard to seismic separation assemblies,  are they required for CPVC
piping?  If they are, does the expansion loop that blazemaster requires
satisfy the requirement?

Thanks,

Bob Knight, CET III
208-318-3057
www.firebyknight.com



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