Appreciate this, Cecil, since we're looking at a retrofit with existing mansards. I drive by the place every day, and offered to make my price sky-high so they'd strip the ugly things off the building! Along the same lines, when a combustible overhang is to be protected if over 48" wide, does that include the additional width of a noncombustible rain gutter? DOH is involved, FWIW.
George L. Church, Jr., CET Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:27 AM To: FORUM Subject: RE: Mansards - NFPA 13 We put allowances in the 2010 edition. But you gotta meet the four criteria found after the following paragraph. Let us know if your mansard meets the requirements. 8.15.1.2.18 Sprinklers shall be permitted to be omitted from within combustible soffits, eaves, overhangs, and decorative frame elements that are constructed in accordance with 8.15.1.2.18.1 through 8.15.1.2.18.4. It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the NFPA, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the AFSA, NFSA, NFPA, nor any of their technical committees. Sincerely, Cecil Bilbo Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology Champaign, IL 217.607.0325 www.sprinkleracademy.com<http://www.sprinkleracademy.com> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:32:43 -0400 > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Mansards - NFPA 13 > > I have had them fill the mansards with insulation because they can present an > exposure problem. Have him cover all of the spaces or use fire treated > lumber. There is nothing in NFPA 13 which allows for omission of small spaces. > > > At 06:59 AM 10/21/2011, you wrote: > >Is there anything in NFPA that allows omission of sprinklers in combustible > >mansards or similar features built on the outside of a building? I have a > >project in which these decorative features are being built on the roof to > >hide mechanicals and at the top floor along the outside wall to give a > >"castle tower" effect. No mechanicals inside, just dead space separated from > >the main building by either a wall or a roof. I have told the GC to fill > >them with non-combustible insulation but there is a cornice that that is > >2ftx2ft (actually ½ because it looks like a triangle) that will be framed > >with 2X6 16in OC that will look like a ledge for the windows. He is asking > >if it also needs insulation. My gut feeling is no because it is such a small > >area. > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Dewayne Martinez > > > >Design Build Fire Protection > > > >262-781-7900 (w) > > > >262-781-8401 (f) > > > >414-349-0468 (cell) > > > > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > >scrubbed... > >URL: > ><http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/att > >achments/20111021/831e38d2/attachment.html> > >_______________________________________________ > >Sprinklerforum mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > Todd G. Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > 860.535.2080 > www.fpdc.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
