Sorry about the IFC rant, I missed the Mexico part.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

The only reason I mentioned AHJ is because the originator of the question 
indicates in his Sig that he's from Mexico.  Not all places in the world 
operate the same way we do here in the States and not all even recognize NFPA 
Standards.  In some of the countries I've worked there are no adopted 
Standards, the local fire department determines the risk level and assigns the 
protection scheme.  NFPA in those areas may be our minimum go-by when the 
direction is flimsy but local rules dictate their minimum acceptable approach.  
 

Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronl.Fletcher
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

I wouldn't ask the AHJ anything, I would tell them what NFPA 37 and 31 require 
and what you are going to do via your plan submittal. If you ask they are more 
than likely going to look in IFC Chapter 34 and require overfill protection, 
float valve, remote fill level indicator and so on. Tanks less than 660 gallons 
a are below the MAQ and Chapter 34 (3401.2.3) isn't applicable.


Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
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[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

David, you're probably thinking of NFPA 37 Standard for the Installation and 
Use of Stationary Combustion Engines and Gas Turbines.   37 in section 11.4.5 
states .30 over the remote 2500 sq. ft. area.  

NFPA 31 Standard for the Installation of Oil-Burning Equipment also addresses 
indoor fuel oil storage tanks and might provide some insight but Chapter 11.4 
provides considerable info on the tanks.

It would be best to also contact the local authority having jurisdiction to see 
if any other codes or standards need to be followed.

Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David deVries
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Diesel rant for engine fire pump

I am traveling, so do not have access to my library. I do recall from many
years ago there was an NFPA standard on diesel engines. I do not remember
the number.  Start with NFPA 20 and 110 which both have chapters on diesel
engine drivers for fire pumps and generators, respectively. You may find
references to other standards that could help you.

Dave

On Tuesday, October 25, 2011, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello to all of you!
> We are designing a fire pump room, and the diesel tank (300 gals) of the
engine will be out of the room.
> Does this tank need to be protected? How? Witch NFPA code address this?
>
> Regards!
>
> Gerzayn Fuentes
> CEPI - Mexico.
> www.cepi.mx
>
>
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