Ron, you are pretty much on target. If the closets weren't there, we would 
loose 3 sprinklers (1 required due to other wall config). If you eliminate the 
3 sprinklers from the calc, you would have approx 10 psi remaining. We are 
going to increase the feed main so the calcs work, but it seems ridiculous to.


At 04:55 PM 1/6/2012, you wrote:
>Is this one of those deals where if the closets weren't there the area
>would be covered and only have sprinklers inside because they're separated
>from the area the other sprinklers cover? So you have four heads in the
>design area that wouldn't normally be there except for the closet, and
>those four heads kill the calcs? This is one that always kills me and so
>I'd like to see the collective wisdom. Seems to me that if the fire is in
>the closet the head inside will play havoc with it and if it breaches to
>the outside (door open), even with another head in the main area opening
>there isn't a big chance of being overwhelmed. Or if the fire starts
>outside and moves into the closet the same but in reverse. But I'm just
>guessing.
>
>On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Check your aeronautics. There are 4 closets in this building. Not flowing
>> 2 of them gets us up to 5 psi. (Actually started with 0.342 psi under the
>> curve)
>>
>> At 12:46 PM 1/6/2012, you wrote:
>> >sounds like that plane won't fly regardless of omitting the closet.
>> >Don't forget you can use a K-2.8 in the closet.  That should get you
>> >up to a 0.2.
>> >
>> >Roland
>> >
>> >On Jan 6, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Todd Williams wrote:
>> >
>> >>I does in this situation. It is an existing system with a new
>> >>underground configuration. With all the sprinklers included, we are
>> >>right at 0.
>> >
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