I believe that's the intent of having 286*F in storage with less demanding criteria than 165*F.
George L. Church, Jr., CET Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842 877-324-ROWE 570-837-6335 fax g...@rowesprinkler.com -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:39 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement >From a heat release aspect, and having had a somewhat recent furniture store >fire nearby, I think you'll get hot enough fast enough to start popping heads >very quickly. In fact I'd think that the 286 heads would be better at keeping >the rings not really covering the fire from going off too soon. Not based on >data mind you, just me thinking, and that's a dangerous course to steer by. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Steve Leyton <st...@protectiondesign.com>wrote: > Snake oil sales talk at its finest. I believe that part of the > reasoning behind section 8.3.23 (new to the 2010 ed., BTW) was for > applications such as this. I agree with you that replacement of the > sprinklers is not required. Is the AHJ working from the 2010 edition > or an earlier one - could that be the issue? > > Steve > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > mphe...@aerofire.com > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:39 AM > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement > > Let's just say that I value the very broad base of experience you have > amassed in working in the California market. :-) > Mark at Aero > > -----Original Message----- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve > Leyton > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:30 AM > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement > > Just to clarify - are you lumping me into the set of "professionals", > or hoping that I know of one who can speak to this issue? > > SL > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > mphe...@aerofire.com > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 10:00 AM > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Sprinkler head Temperature requirement > > I have a Friday question for the forum, and maybe Roland is able to > respond with some "intent" perspective. In a 27' high industrial spec > building, we installed sprinkler heads rated at 286 degree. This was > permitted, installed, inspected and approved. The owner now has a > tenant lease which will build out the entire building as a retail > furniture showroom, no ceiling and no storage. The local fire > inspector is siting NFPA 2002 Edition section 8.3.2.2, "Where maximum > ceiling temperatures exceed 100 degrees F, sprinklers with temperature > ratings in accordance with the maximum ceiling temperatures of Table 6.2.5.1 > shall be used." > , as a requirement to remove all the sprinklers in the building and > replace them with 212 degree F sprinklers. My contention is that the > next section, 8.3.2.3 "High temperature sprinklers shall be permitted > to be used throughout ordinary and extra hazard occupancies and as > allowed in this standard and other NFPA codes and standards.", allows > the ex isting 286 degree sprinklers to remain and be in compliance > with NFPA 13. What say the professionals, Roland, Steve, George, Ron, > Rod, Anyone .....? > Mark at Aero > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. 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