"smoke control systems can be tested 'full scale' and not be destructive doing 
so."  How do you do that?  If you are not testing with hot or at least a very 
buoyant 'smoke' plume you probably aren't really testing it.    

Chris Cahill, PE*
Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group
Burns & McDonnell
8201 Norman Center Drive
Bloomington, MN 55437
Phone:  952.656.3652
Fax:  952.229.2923
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13R balcony protection

Agree George-- I do not see how it could be otherwise. Expert witnesses for the 
prosecution and the defense both can "prove" whatever they want to using 
modeling :(. I use it to get a second opinion of what my gut is telling me, and 
for something enjoyable and fascinating to do home nights and weekends.
I have used FDS far more for designing smoke exhaust and EVAC, than sprinkler 
models- also fascinating (to me) and more satisfying in that smoke control 
systems can be tested 'full scale' and not be destructive doing so. 

-----Original Message-----
From: George Church [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13R balcony protection

I suppose it's just since we apply the codes and standards as adopted so most 
AHJs don't know and don't care if we can model something or draw other 
conclusions than what they're reading in black and white, day in and day out.


George L.  Church, Jr., CET
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]


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