10-12 years back, apt complex called the Rosecliff 1/2 mile south down
Willard Street from NFPA.  BBQ on 2nd level (called a Balcony in the news),
up the exterior and into the unsprinklered attic (13R).  Nobody died
thankfully.
I've had Owners argue that the plan says 'deck', so why do I need to
sprinkler?
Wishing I was in HI...
TD


Chris, in Eastern CT, we had 2 fires (in the same city) where unprotected
porches added significantly to the extent of fire damage. That was one of
the deciding factors here.


At 08:53 AM 10/15/2012, you wrote:
>Curious on the addition of balconies.  It has been that way (without
balconies) in 13R for 20 years...what caused the change now?
>
>
>The 2009 edition of the IBC added the balcony must have a roof or deck 
>above regarding required sprinkler protection.  Nothing regarding 
>whether the overhang on the top floor is a driver.  Additionally, the
>2013 edition of NFOA 13R finally acknowledge the supremacy of the code over
standards in driving such matters and added the below text.
>
>
>6.6.5* Except as provided for in 6.6.5.1, sprinklers shall not be required
in any porches, balconies, corridors, carports, porte cocheres, and stairs
that are open and attached.
>
>6.6.5.1 Where a roof or deck is provided above, sprinklers shall be
installed to protect attached exterior balconies, attached exterior decks,
and ground floor patios serving dwelling units in buildings of Construction
Type V.
>
>6.6.5.1.1 Where sidewall sprinklers are installed beneath decks or
balconies constructed with open wood joists, sprinklers shall be permitted
to be installed with deflectors not less than 1 in. (25 mm) or more than 6
in. (152 mm) below the structural members, provided that the deflector is
not more than 14 in. (356 mm) below the underside surface of the deck.
systems, or other reliable means capable of maintaining a minimum
temperature between 40°F and 120°F (4°C and 48.9°C).
>
>Roland
>
>
>
>
>On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:50 AM, Todd Williams wrote:
>
>> The Connecticut Fire Safety Code (at least the part that is based on 
>> the IFC) includes a requirement that exterior balconies and patios be 
>> sprinkelred in 13R occupancies. However, this is being interpreted 
>> that they have to be protected regardless if there is any structure 
>> above or not. Consequently, we have to install sidewall sprinklers 
>> under 9" door moldings because they open on to a patio or deck (just 
>> got a plan rejected for this). This make no sense to me because they 
>> would most likely never activate, but this is being enforced as the 
>> law. Anybody else run into this?
>>

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