I question the credentials of a lot of third party reviewers, Burton. Especially those that would make such a comment. And in this case the designer's ability to design isn't in question, it's his ability to run a computer program. I had a reviewer that refused to accept hand calcs with the excuse that there were always too many mistakes. I used to send him computer calcs in which I purposely entered erroneous data and which he always approved. He trusted the Great and All Knowing Computer Oz because "confusers can't make mistakes" but not those pesky hand calcs that are easy to review for accuracy. Why? Because he couldn't do or read calcs. I don't know the issues with Ken's friend, the reviewer, etc., but the comment was unprofessional and so I doubt the reviewers competency.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Ford, Charles <[email protected]> wrote: > Uh. Any chance that there is some truth to the statement? The least he > could do is point out some of the most obvious errors ( assuming there are > some) Your friend could revise or defend. > I have a friend who is a 3rd party reviewer. His stories of lousy, wrong, > inadequate, even potentially dangerous designs will curl your hair. > Just sayin. > > C. Burton Ford > NICET Certified IV > NFPA Certified Fire Protection Specialist > Cintas Fire Protection Inc > 1038 Conshohocken Rd > Conshohocken, PA 19428 > Tel 610-233-1400 > Fax 610-233-1401 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Matsuda, Richard > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:02 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: advice > > Don't know what do tell you about this...it's really not a proper comment > to reject a submittal. > I guess the best thing to do is make the corrections and check it twice > before resubmitting. > > The best (worst) comment that I've heard of was: "Seek professional > assistance; do not resubmit." > rick matsuda > city of dallas > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > ParsleyConsulting > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:57 AM > To: SprinklerFORUM > Subject: advice > > I have to admit I'm completely at a loss for how to respond to a written > > review comment a friend of mine received yesterday. It read as follows: > > "The person that ran the hydraulic calculations has obviously not been > trained to use the program and is not knowledgeable in sprinkler system > design." > > As you might well imagine he's quite upset. Anyone have advice on how to > proceed? > -- > > PARSLEY CONSULTING > > Ken Wagoner, SET > > 760.745.6181 voice > > 760.745.0537 fax > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>e-mail > > www.ParsleyConsulting.com <http://www.ParsleyConsulting.com>website > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be > confidential and privileged. If you receive this e-mail and you are not a > named addressee you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to > read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this communication without the > consent of the sender and that doing so is prohibited and may be unlawful. > Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the > message was misdirected. After replying, please delete and otherwise erase > it and any attachments from your computer system. Your assistance in > correcting this error is appreciated. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20121213/28050089/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
