Steve was a tad softer on this issue which is an old point of contention for 
me.  The older editions of NFPA 20 simply said where the pressure exceeds the 
rating of the system, a relief valve shall be installed.  So some (we'll many) 
folks well golly gee willickers, we can overs die that baby, reduce some pipe 
size, and take care of the problem with a relief valve.  That ignores every 
churn test you dump thousands of gallons of water to ground.  Gee nice skating 
rink in the parking lot.  Bad practice is the nicer terms for such poor designs.

That was finally fixed by NFPA 20 a couple of cycles ago.  The 2013 ed says:

4.7.7* Maximum Pressure for Centrifugal Pumps.

4.7.7.1 The net pump shutoff (churn) pressure plus the maxi- mum static suction 
pressure, adjusted for elevation, shall not ex- ceed the pressure for which the 
system components are rated.

4.7.7.2* Pressure relief valves and pressure regulating devices in the fire 
pump installation shall not be used as a means to meet the requirements of 
4.7.7.1. 

It also tells us when a relief valve shall be used (ONLY for diesel drivers 
where at 121% of rating (run away pump) + inlet pressure exceeds the rating of 
system and diesel pressure limiting drivers.

The problem is that statement about not using pressure regulating devices.  
That is why they are located after the last component required by NFPA 20 (the 
discharge control valve) so done so under the control of other NFPA system 
standards.  The relief valve is not located after the control valve so that 
approach won't fly.

This is a good example of where one committee totally ignores the reality of 
the world and choice design purity instead of listening to input from the NFPA 
14 committee.

Roland

Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org





On Jun 3, 2013, at 8:36 PM, "Steve Leyton" <[email protected]> wrote:

> To arbitrarily oversize a pump (as specifying engineers are sometimes wont to 
> do) and then slap a reducing (or worse, relief) valve into the discharge main 
> is a bad practice.  So if you have a pump that's oversized for the 
> application, that arguably should be addressed in a more meaningful remedial 
> way. 

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