It was my understanding that you may NOT use "home-made" supports anymore, and the "qualified" person (scissor lift manufacturer) did not design nor certify them. You must buy the Factory pipe cradles, or put the pipe on the floor of the lift.
Jeff Garrison Project Engineer C 586-871-3705 Detroit Automatic Sprinkler Co. 28501 Ryan Rd., Suite C Warren, MI 48092 P 586-574-0100 F 586-574-0101 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Lift Equipment for Sprinkler Installation Yes, we designed and manufactured a "bull horn" style pipe rack capable of supporting the pipe above the safety rail. We have now outfitted all of our Owned equipment, and have bolt on style racks for rental equipment. And thanks again to Ben for pointing our effort to OSHA. Mark at Aero -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cahill, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 7:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Lift Equipment for Sprinkler Installation Remember this from a few months ago. I read the OSHA link and Genie product link. Was the end result you cannot support the pipe or materials from the rails and must use something like the Genie product? Just seeing if I took from this an accurate summary of the conversation and if anything changed. Ya'll bought pipe cradles, right? OSHA's got you covered because they consider scissor lifts to be scaffolding. http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATION S&p_id=25003 Benjamin Young FYI. No endorsement or advertisement intended . http://www.genieindustries.com.au/site/assets/media/homepage/pipe-cradle.pdf On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Rod DiBona <[email protected]> wrote: Ron Greenman Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation & Facilities Group Burns & McDonnell 8201 Norman Center Drive Bloomington, MN 55437 Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax: 952.229.2923 [email protected] www.burnsmcd.com Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For *Registered in: MN -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Lift Equipment for Sprinkler Installation This is a call for action to the contractors and equipment suppliers of the Fire Sprinkler Industry. Over the past year we have encountered a new requirement/regulation that has broad ranging financial and safety implications to our businesses. We first encountered this issue on federal work for the Army Corp of Engineers, then Navfac, and now it is showing up in private commercial work. We are being told that we cannot use our normal lift equipment to install sprinkler work in the traditional manner, i.e. pipe fitter loads sprinkler pipe on the scissor lift, elevates the lift platform into position and installs the pipe. The original stated reason for this was that the safety rail on the platform was not "intended for use as a pipe rack" . We responded to this by fabricating structural steel pipe racks, and installing them on the platform deck. Then we were told we would need a certification from the equipment manufacturer stating that the platform deck was capable of managi ng the weight of the loaded pipe racks. None of the equipment suppliers will issue any statement, certified or otherwise, beyond the rated lift capacity. For the first several projects, we were forced to use a separate piece of equipment, like a roust-a-bout, to lift the pipe into place, while the pipe fitter maneuvered his scissor lift in to place to connect and hang the pipe. This procedure requires two men to install one piece of pipe, and requires about four times the normal production labor rate. Also, in my opinion, this method of installation significantly increases the risk of personal injury or damage to the building or adjacent systems. So my questions are: 1) Have any of you (contractors) experienced this on your jobsites? 2) Are there any lift equipment suppliers monitoring this forum, and if so, do you feel any obligation to address your customers' needs? 3) (Roland) As an Industry Association, how can we work together to address and resolve this? Mark at Aero _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
