By the way,where did the sch 80 requirement come from? I have never been able 
to locate that in code.

I've heard this requirement for years but its not in NFPA 13.   Old 
specifications Is a guess.

John

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-----Original message-----
From: "Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]" <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 06:30:33 EDT
Subject: RE: Shoulder Nipple

They are using an existing 1/2" outlet (likely an upright) to supply a 
relocated sprinkler (likely a pendent)...completely legitimate.

8.15.20.4.1 (2013)    When pipe schedule systems are revamped, a nipple not 
exceeding 4 in. (100 mm) in length shall be permitted to be installed in the 
branch line fitting.
8.15.20.4.2    All piping other than the nipple permitted in 8.15.20.4.1 and 
8.15.20.4.3 shall be a minimum of 1 in. (25 mm) in diameter in accordance with 
Figure 8.15.20.4.2.
8.15.20.4.3    When it is necessary to pipe two new ceiling sprinklers from an 
existing outlet in an overhead system, the use of a nipple not exceeding 4 in. 
(100 mm) in length and of the same pipe thread size as the existing outlet 
shall be permitted, provided that a hydraulic calculation verifies that the 
design flow rate will be achieved in accordance with Figure 8.15.20.4.3.
8.15.20.4.4    Where an armover is attached to connect to a sprinkler, the use 
of pipe nipples less than 1 in. (25 mm) in diameter shall not be permitted 
where seismic design is required on the system.

By the way, where did the sch 80 requirement come from? I have never been able 
to locate that in code.

Duane Johnson, PE
Program Manager
Division of the Fire Marshal (Contractor)
Office of Research Services
National Institutes of Health
301-496-0487

"Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Gillett [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Shoulder Nipple

Hoping they are requesting sch 80 and they are not in a seismic zone.

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On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:12 PM, "JSM Fire Pro" <[email protected]> wrote:

> You’re a third party glancing over a bill of materials for an
> add/relocate day job.  You notice one of the line items is calling for 
> several ½”
> shoulder nipples.
>
>
>
> What goes through your mind?
>
>
>
> J. Scott Mitchell, PE
>
> B&W Technical Services Pantex
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