Looking for love in all the wrong places again. SS rules are for SS and
ESFR rules are for ESFR, and n'er the twain shall meet. Or at least where
the do use the proper separation to keep them apart. It's age 272 in the
2013 edition of the handbook. Your milage may differ using the 2007 model
(mine's at home so I can't check it), but even if not on 272, I'm putting
money on it saying the same thing.


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Roland Huggins
<[email protected]>wrote:

> the reason for the curtain is to avoid (well reduce) the potential for a
> fire just inside the portion with spray sprinklers (with SR rating) from
> opening the adjacent ESFR sprinkler.  This is also why the 4 ft aisle
> directly beneath the draft curtain is critical.   This is not an issue of
> having the overlapping second ring discharge enough water which drives the
> 15 ft extension.  If they need to see t in writing, send them to the
> Handbook - page 272.
>
>
> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
> American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
> Dallas, TX
> http://www.firesprinkler.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Mike Hairfield <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Here is my situation:
> >
> >
> >
> > NFPA 13-2007 8.4.6.4.1 Draft Curtains are required when ESFR Sprinklers
> are installed
> >
> > adjacent to sprinkler systems with standard response sprinklers.
> >
> >
> >
> > A local AHJ is allowing NFPA 13-2007 11.1.2 (1)  15 ft. beyond the
> perimeter to be used
> >
> > to not require a Draft Curtain.
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe the AHJ has made a big mistake, what do you guys/gals think?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
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