Then I will count on your support for the next cycle.....

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Agreed about losing Class II.   And that I'm correct.






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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 11:05 AM
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Agreed that you are correct or that you would support losing/removing
Class II standpipes from NFPA 14???


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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 1:58 PM
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Agreed.   ;-)






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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:57 AM
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Steve is correct... My utmost and sincere apologies... I meant to say
"trained fire Brigade".... We need to lose Class II standpipes


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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 1:48 PM
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I don't wanna nit-pick too much, but the current definitions and classes
of standpipe systems makes NO provision for occupant use.   I agree with
Pete that the likely use of the term Shotgun is reference to a riser
that doesn't have a control valve and may also not have a check valve.
Out here in fair weather country we put our backflows out at the
property line with FDC's attached to the discharge side, comprising a
complete control-check-FDC manifold.   It is very common to see a
"riser" comprised of no more than a gauge, flow switch and test/drain
valve.

SML






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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:45 AM
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Thanks for clarifying that for me Pete

David L. Smith
Fire Protection Maintenance
City of Lakeland
Public Works / Facilities
228 S. Massachusetts Ave.
Lakeland, Fl. 33801
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 1:45 PM
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David
I am not familiar with a shotgun system. A standpipe system will be a
system that has hose valves for occupant or fire department use. These
days we usually only see standpipes for fire department use. A standpipe
system can also have connections to sprinkler systems. (Typical for 4
story or taller buildings in Florida).
I have heard of a "Shotgun" riser. This is almost always a riser for a
sprinkler system that has a control valve and a check valve. The check
valve has a drain attached to it as well as the gauge assemblies.
I have pasted a link (not sure if it will come through on this forum) to
a "shotgun" riser check valve.

https://imail2.waynefire.com/owa/?ae=PreFormAction&a=ReplyAll&t=IPM.Note
&id=RgAAAADUIy2uEn7QEb6WAKDJDFRrBwBp%2fZ7LzzilS4i%2fDgCOx7xRAAAlYgAoAAAK
Lb28HRUFToXdF0nAlaEnAAAAFMC8AAAJ&pspid=_1400861904231_553169776

Pete

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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 1:31 PM
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Subject: Sprinkler Systems

Can someone explain to me the definition of a Standpipe system and a
shotgun system?

David L. Smith Member
Fire Protection Maintenance
City of Lakeland
Public Works / Facilities
228 S. Massachusetts Ave.
Lakeland, Fl. 33801
Office: 863-834-2380
Fax:  863-834-2284
Cell: 863-559-0903
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