Doug, your Item #3 misses the point of the forward flow test. The test is 
specifically to exercise the backflow preventer, so disassembling it 
invalidates the test.

As to the other means of testing, it seems the standard is telling us that we 
need to create a means of testing without having to disassemble the check valve 
or remove it. Their reasoning is that most owners won't take the time (or spend 
the money) to have someone go to such lengths to test.  Given that your client 
seems willing to do so, I suspect your options #1 and #2 are o.k.  I would just 
suggest they invest in a test bypass loop or test outlet to make future testing 
easier (and less expensive).

Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Fire Protection Engineer | 
Fargo, ND | direct: 701.552.9905 | mobile: 701.371.5759 | 
http://www.kfiengineers.com

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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Douglas Hicks
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 10:03 AM
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Subject: Removal of FDC check valve

Automatic Sprinkler Handbook, 2013 edition Page 454 tells us we cannot reverse 
the check valve in the FDC as a means to perform a forward flow,  except for 
those systems that did not have backflow devices at the time of sprinkler 
installation.

Question # 1.  Can we replace the check valve with a pipe, and then do the 
forward flow?

Question # 2 Can we tie the clapper in the open position, and then do the 
forward flow?

Question # 3 Can we have a licensed plumber remove the checks in the backflow 
device, and then do the forward flow?  (In Oregon, sprinkler people are not 
smart enough to work on backflow devices, even if we are licensed to test 
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