It is possible that some of the anti-freeze moved around due to density 
differences with the water- the 'water' sample that you pulled may not be 
representative of all of the liquid in the system. It would depend on the 
layout of the piping to see if that is a possibility.

On the other hand: you were told it was a closed loop system... any way to 
verify that? You were also told it was  a 55 gallon system, so the person you 
spoke with may not have a complete understanding of the system design.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II  
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Douglas Hicks
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Antifreeze system

We installed an isolation valve on an propylene glycol antifreeze loop.  
Unfortunately, we were told the system was about 55 gallons. It was closer to 
90 gallons.  We only had enough antifreeze for 60 gallons.  We used what 
antifreeze we had, and finished the job with straight water.  My thought was to 
drain the water, monitoring the liquid until we got to the antifreeze.  Then we 
would fill the system with an antifreeze mix.

Today, we returned  to the job site with  30 gallons of antifreeze.  We closed 
the isolation valve and drained out 5 gallons.  The drained water tested  to 
15°F.  We tested the fluid at the other end of the piping.  It also tested 
15°F. I thought the antifreeze loop was a closed system.  How did the 
antifreeze and water get mixed in a closed pipe system?  

Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc 
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